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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Do people actually consciously make a judgement about quality of service when they tip??! I always just mindlessly add 15-20%. So the whole "tipping incentivizes quality of service" argument has always seemed unrealistic to me. https://x.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1826601506885320775
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Leo
@lsn
Tbf On the spectrum of ‘willingness and ability to give money away’, you are top 0.1% on both respects
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ted (not lasso)
@ted
kinda hard when most of the time they make us tip before we are serviced lol
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Corbin Page
@corbin.eth
I tip within the range of 15-25% by quality of service. It's a useful feedback mechanism even if I'm just one data point and it's not widely adopted by everyone. You're doing your part to align incentives with the outcomes you hope to get. Kind of like voting.
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Giuliano Giacaglia
@giu
For sure add based on quality of service
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Vladyslav Dalechyn
@dalechyn.eth
In Ukraine we always tip at least 10%-15% as it's literally money that waiters get paid with. Salaries are quite small and only tips make the job bearable. Most of us understand this and always tip.
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Natalia
@nameline
Absolutely, most of the time the quality of service does go into my calculation
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horsefacts
@horsefacts.eth
Depends if it's a one shot or iterated game. Seems tipping has evolved from an iterated game to a broad social norm.
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Mac Budkowski ᵏ
@macbudkowski
Most of my European friends make a conscious judgment, me included. But in the US (I guess Canada, too?), tipping seems like a social norm. I never felt embarrassed for not tipping in Europe, but in the US, I feel always uneasy when I pick 0%.
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@ashmoney.eth
I always tip a base amount regardless of quality of service, and i tip more for great service
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Gwynne Michele
@thecurioushermit
Because of the way the U.S. tipping system works, my default is 20% regardless of service. Because that's the bulk of their wages. Also, it gets me GREAT service at places where I'm a regular.
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On one hand - post-rationalisation of being able to make things seem cheaper on the menu + the “good” feeling attached to paying staff directly (which in reality just drives their wages and hence menu item prices down) On the other hand - service culture in america is incompatible to that of europe (a fair comparison due to shared cultural roots allowing the greatest ability of eliminating that as a factor in the comparison)
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@depatchedmode
Most of my friends work in the service industry. I tip 15-20% depending on the situation. Ironically, the people I've met who micromanage or fully withhold tips are the people who take up 90% of service staff's time — usually over things that are nitpicky displays of power.
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@markmywords.eth
Mr Pink, although exaggerated for comedic/dramatic affect, is on the right track. You have to make a judgement call. All service is not the same and shouldn't be valued as such. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk
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@gilles
My tipping (if + how much) is totally an expression of how pleased I felt with the service
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@kia
it's the abstinence not the amount that motivates. i.e. it's the fact that if they're rude or make you wait you wouldn't tip at all. speed is also a big factor here. it takes significantly longer to get a drink in a busy bar/club in europe because the bartender isn't compensated based on number of drinks sold. where as in US, if anyone is tipping the same flat amount, the bartender is still incentivized to have higher turn over. in high end restaurants you do get better tip for better service though.
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@nicom
There's a cultural aspect here. When you live in a country where service is included in the price so tips are not expected and are only if you are very rich or had some really extraordinary service, then when you are in a country like the US, you necessarily think about the tip, check prices, and adjust. And because it's how it works in your home country you necessarily make it related to the quality.
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slobo
@slobo.eth
bad service = 15% normal = 20% exceptional = 25%
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tldr (tim reilly)
@tldr
Don't overlook an important aspect of quality service: Whether you are seated efficiently. I live in Berlin for part of the year (no tipping), and you regularly see super long lines outside while many tables inside are empty or finished. This must be at least partly bc of the incentive structure.
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Christian Montoya 🦊
@m0nt0y4
Yes I have always made a judgment. If the service is good I give at least 18%, usually 20% or more, if it's bad I will give 10% or if it's really bad, no tip.
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