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Seeing lots of people on Twitter dunk on this new law in Australia preventing children under 16 from using social media. What do you think?

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I think it’s a great idea in theory but I’m worried about the execution and enforcement - will all social sites now require KYC?

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Fully support. The KYC would be a great use of ZK.

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based but yeah, hard to regulate

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This is something parents should just do. No need for the state to get involved but unfortunately many parents let kids use social media even under 13.

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The underlying premise is fine — social media is harmful to kids under a certain age, but I can’t see any way this works: • Parents that have let their kids get sucked into social media are suddenly going to enforce this policy? • Knowing Oz, it’s probably a back-door to full on KYC & restricted speech • I reckon laws for something as addictive as social media are going to work as well as age-restricted drinking & smoking laws. I say this as a parent who didn’t let our kids have phones until they were teenagers, and we still monitor their usage (though I will admit we let them use social media more than we would like sometimes, but we know that that’s on us as parents). All that said, I’m very interested in the approaches some schools have taken to prohibit phones in class, e.g., put them in a basket when coming in.

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Personally I think it makes sense based on what we know about social media right now. It’s also a long-game culture change. Kids still smoked cigarettes after they were illegal but slowly their use was reduced.

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will create a new old loneliness like that of the 1990s

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I, and many Australians, absolutely detest this ban. It’s a Trojan horse for the DigitaliD which will now be forced onto ALL Australians, to confirm age prior to logging in. This was confirmed in senate inquiries. Professional consultation was sought on this bill, and the majority pointed out that it was bad policy, some even showing it was unconstitutional, yet they guillotined it through in the middle of the night with no debate. No one wants their kids bullied online, but it’s for the parents to decide. Not the precedent to set up a mass surveillance state on ALL citizens who use social media.

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great on paper, never works in practice. so all that is actually passing is the second order effects which are all likely bad.

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What is their definition oF social media? Is YouTube a social media?

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One nuance often missed when these seemingly authoritarian things out of Australia pop up Twitter (cigarette taxes & plain packaging, gun control, lockdowns and vaccination policy etc) is that we have historically had a very different relationship with our government than the US. The social contract is different. We give up more freedoms and expect more from our government in return. Contrast compulsory voting and universal healthcare with the US. We have a higher expectation of responsibility from both government and citizens. We might share a language and Crocodile Dundee might have promoted an image of us as rough and rugged, country living individualists, but 90% of us live in cities and we’re really been quite social democratic in the same way as western Europe for much of our history.

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i wish i never went on twitter when i was younger

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As an Australian I can tell you absolutely no one wants this, it's just another case of mainstream media controlling the group think once again. It won't stick.

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How is it enforced?

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not a bad idea imo, not sure why the dunking

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if people on twitter are dunking on it, it probably has meeit

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the kiddos are so addicted to social that they would literally crash out without it - and that’s the problem ..withdrawal symptoms so the real question is what do the aussies have in place to mitigate the symptoms? What will they replace social with?

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