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X post from @flynn.eth, who may know more about airdrops than anyone else in the space. change my mind: current one-click mint frames are just airdrops, not value drivers. their distribution is just another flavor of TVL, not LTV. and if airdrops don’t “work”, why should we expect one-click mint frames to?

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We can all agree the airdrop hunting euphoria is bad for the ecosystem. Jumping between layers just to generate volume is not sustainable. Frames (apart from one click mints) offer so much more and could revolutionize that way we consume content.

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i agree here esp. those designed on a bad mechanism re distro or tokenomics. yet, STRK is IMHO was a nice signal to the entire ecosystem for prioritising devs & the like. @tim's read on @protocolguild pledges offer a view on potential of native tokens https://warpcast.com/tim/0x3dfcdd41

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this is a very user hostile take. any crypto project will tell you that an airdrop is the #1 user requested feature. people like airdrops as they are a crypto native incentive mechanism. people like mints as they are crypto native attestations of presence. the builder's job is to use these tools to create retention

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The rhetoric on both sides entirely depends on the definition of "work". Same applies to CTM frames.

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Farcaster and therefore frames are top of funnel. Retention doesn’t happen at this layer. Companies need a strategy for that.

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Not only that, they do work. The ARB and BOINK drops made so much news they got into my podcast feed and got me to buy their token 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Airdrops are a feature uniquely enabled by crypto Just because they’ve often been poorly designed doesn’t mean they don’t or can’t work Agree that one click frames aren’t well designed airdrops for anything trying to sustainably reward users but they could be good for GTM strategies

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🎯 https://warpcast.com/zinger/0xf94d5bb9

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i am not sure what research he is referring to. and what does “don’t work” mean? what are we measuring to decide?

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One click mint, is a neat reference build, but there can’t be value in it because everything valuable is missing, other than the hook itself. I assume a lot of these evolve though and these are all just a frames hello world moment

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at the end of the day, airdrops will evolve to onchain status signals with lowest status trending to zero, highest trending up. in hyper informational age we must evolve the form ( airdrops ) by not ignoring the medium (one-click frames), to drive convenience. i think.

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I think the interactive nature of a frame results in the user saying "yes" to something. Combined with gamification and it can be very motivating. Anecdotally, minting via frames introduced me to an artist and I minted 9 of their pieces today. That never would have happened with an airdrop. Yes leads to more yes.

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100% agreed. We have a rule at Bunches: no farmers, no flippers. We’re designing mechanisms intentionally to discourage both. Real traction > real transactions. Ideally both. "work" = long-term incentive alignment (LTV > TVL, indeed)

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One-click mints and airdrops are just mechanisms. They are easy, so they've been used in a very lazy and ineffective way. Doesn't mean that they can't be good mechanisms if used correctly. Their ease unfortunately adds more noise and less signal. Adding good friction helps boost signal. Algos then can reduce noise.

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Bad products need them to survive, and there are a lot of bad products out there. As a consequence good products are pressured to do them too, which turns the good products into bad ones overrun with airdrop hunters.

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Most protocols are useless without the users experimenting w them. The only driver to use these ponzi protocols in many cases is the users speculating they may get something in return

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