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DHH on passkeys: https://world.hey.com/dhh/passwords-have-problems-but-passkeys-have-more-95285df9
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He makes a good point about weak multi-platform interoperability. His service (Basecamp, Hey) are targeting professional setup and relay heavily on email (for notifications, communication, billing.) It makes sense for them to require emails from their users anyways. Emails provide better spam prevention and control features compared to passkeys, too.
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passkeys are more secure imo
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I actually like to use the a passkey as a 2FA after logging in with a password (on my computer) and then the passkey is scanning a QR code on my computer and then a face biometric on my phone. Also use a face biometric to login directly on my phone. It's quicker than all of those codes sent to emails and texts, or authenticator apps and all that stuff. It's getting to be overwhelming. 😂 I do use a password manager now too. I can see thought, that many people don't want to bother with all this stuff (like in my parent's generation).
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The big issue to me is that no one questions why we just collectively gave up on requiring that user should be careful and not lose things. Not so long ago, you had a physical key and only one for that safe, so you knew it was important. Then we made people used to be able to forget everything, lose everything, because it allows to free their mind for things like buying and consuming goods and entertainment. But the issue is not the fact that the key could be lost, the issue it that no one now considers that not being careful is an issue. If we go back to teaching how unique and important a key is, users will take care of keys like my grandpa took care of his safe key, his money in it, his car, his tractor... Everything that are now seen as easy to replace and that users are naturally entitled to be able to recover. I think passkey really does a good job. Just stop forgetting keys, having only one unsaved one, losing your phone or having it stolen because you carelessly display it in public and you're good.
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this aligns 666% with my disappointment using passkeys after all the hype about how they are supposed to be the solution to passwords
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@cassie thoughts?
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Seems like the problem is passkeys are only being offered by walled-garden services. Classic problem of trying to onboard users before finishing the workflow. For passkeys to work they need to be platform agnostic. Just like password managers had to become. Password managers living behind a walled garden have all the exact same problems. Try having a Windows PC and an iPhone and sharing passwords without a third party software that lets you out of your respective gardens.
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Passkeys are definitely more secure and offer better protection against hacking and phishing. But I think there are still some practical challenges that need to be worked out before they can completely replace passwords.
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This is why i use different variations of 2 different passwords for all my services. Solves everything.
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I use a VPN on my phone and laptop, passkeys never work. If it's a choice between anonymity and convenience you know which ones we're choosing
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I don’t really trust Passkeys cause it’s easier to get access to your doc once a person has access to the keys
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passkeys being limited to a device makes sense, isn’t that the practical use case for it? if you want to use multiple devices, remember your password
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I agree but speaking from this, how do you think password managers can become mainstream
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I never knew.
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Where the fuck do we run to then😂? @phil
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