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@dwr.eth
If we were to work on channels as a developer lego, what should we improve? Decentralizing existing primitive doesn’t drive network growth. So would have to offer something new / compelling.
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APIs to (1) follow channels and (2) create channels, so they become fully usable in other apps if you want, you can check if app_fid has a registered signer for the user on the network without necessarily decentralizing the channel primitive itself; that’ll ensure that the user has at least given the app _some_ permissions and if yes, you can then let them access channel APIs
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@zd
the focus should be decreasing barriers to grow new communities 1. add API endpoints for - channel creation - new user invites 2. sponsor account + channel creation fees for devs using these APIs why? new communities should grow bottom up via channel clients devs come for the tool (unruggable APIs) and stay for the network (persistent social graph) users will also come for the tool (channel client) and stay for the network (other channel clients) example: if im building a marketplace, i want an easy way to tap into currently active affinity groups and create new ones my users would care about being part of their affinity groups, and maybe some would discover/create new ones to buy from/sell to if im building a facebook equivalent, i want the same thing as a dev my users would care about joining their fraternity group, their sports team group, their university group, etc. in either case, account creation and channel creation must be seamless
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@matthew
allowing channels created outside of WC to show up in warpcast—example if i made @event urls into parent_urls and let ppl cast at them, that wouldn’t show up in WC today right?
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@yassinelanda.eth
Let channel mods manage their main feed algorithmically by opening to 3rd party provider - great place to start that experiencementation! Have a « create/join channel » button on every website for people to follow on the conversation - maybe a @metamask snap? Turn channel circles in Warpcast to stories about top posts from specific channels- basically if you are trending in one, you get some love by being on prime real estate. Better make possible to set dynamically by channel mod.
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Reorient channels around ongoing discussions rather than top-level casts The back-and-forth discourse is one of the best parts of Farcaster, lean into that with the niches that channels create It’s not obvious which casts (even in the main feed) have a lot of discussion going on around them since more replies doesn’t bump them to the top Pair this with a channel-specific reputation system and it gives people a reason to check channels they care about and participate in conversations
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Read-gated channels Main feed moderation isn’t enough since most people view casts via home feed anyway, feels like it defeats the point a bit of automod and similar tools Also more of social is moving to private group chats but the downside is limited discoverability and too many notifications without an algo feed
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@nonlinear.eth
make them feel like distinct places. more new york city less orange county
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@zeni.eth
imo network growth via channels won't come from marginal enhancements to the twitter-like experience Some probably bad (but perhaps slightly creative) ideas: What would it take for channels to... - get organic quora/reddit searches? I still often find myself googling "best headphone 2024 reddit" etc. - get chosen by non-FC native content creators as a place to start their online community (instead of discourse, telegram group, subreddit, google classroom, discourse) One naive intuition is that the ability to put financial incentives in place of or in addition to status-seeking behavior (e.g., Quora q's answered) will drive network growth via channels. As to how what the developer lego to do these is? I'm not sure yet.
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@db
Discovery via popularity and niche by improving the algo to promote popular and niche-specific channel content Monetization: Rather than built-in monetization, support 3rd party development of these tools through grants or promotion Collaboration between channels: Create a system to drive cross-pollination of users
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@degencast.eth
This is so true ser some ideas: - make channel creation "cheap", which we are already experimenting by allowing anyone to create channels (although not indexed by warpcast). This is not even about decentralizing channels but making it less gated. 26 dollars adds additional frictions. - regarding making something compelling, currently channels is merely a different filter for feeds. So we could experiment with making it more discord and less twitter. or in someway associate with groupcast with channel is also one way to make it less twitter. current channel --> twitter with hashtag filter channel but more forums ish --> reddit channel but more chatty --> discord/telegram either way could make channel much more interesting and differentiated from the main feeds
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honestly hard to think of a use case for channels as a lego besides like using a channel to create a custom client, ie only pull casts from a particular channel. i'd say give the option to remove the "recent" tab so they can act as a publicly viewable gated forum by using things like your hamcaster token, or moxie fan token, or any other token for that matter. for example you can only post in /deployer if you have my caster token. you combine 3 separate products to create a friendtech/alfafrens gated forum experience. caster token as the key, automod for moderation, warpcast for the forum.
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@chriscocreated
Easy to get Main feed for each channel. (Please correct me if this is already possible, but I didn’t see it in Neynar so assume it not available) cc @rish
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@deodad
channels need a programmable semi permeable membrane following is the wrong verb, not cozy a two sided opt in so channels have members can’t have a community with no barrier to entry having an explicit list of members is different than moderating after the fact
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don’t think the developer interface is lacking, I think it just needs a kickstart from the mothership in terms of being centered in the experience show me a twitter style sidebar on the home feed with AI-generated summaries of the recent discourse in my channels
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meta q: whats holding you back from fully realizing the potential of fip-2 ala https://github.com/dylsteck/dylsteck/blob/main/app/blog/posts/free-fip-2.mdx ?
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I want to make or save money using channels Help me do that and I will tell other people about it
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@casslineth
@cast2save #channel
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what do you mean "channels as a developer logo"? is that coming from the warpcast side or the farcaster side? off the top of my head.. would be helpful for a channels to have a pinned composer action at the top instead of deep in the explore page (though i think most ppl -- myself included -- want shareable links to composer actions) also, giving channels a customizable button at the top to open a composer action or an external link could be helpful just a few thoughts making channels more composable would make them more differentiated from the basic warpcast 'cast surface area'
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Another cut: let people subscribe to channels via email digest I would create a personal channel and use it as a blog if I could distribute the contents to my existing email subscriber base If they want to reply they can signup for Farcaster
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