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@benersing
Let’s spice things up a bit. Predestination: yes/no?
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@cassie
I liken the questions of free will and predestination to be similar to the divide between classical physics and quantum physics. Newton viewed the universe as being the display of divine clockwork. Our improved understanding is that probabilities rule everything at a much subtler level, the clockwork is emergent.
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@swabbie.eth
i’m not going to debate theology, but what’s the precise definition of free will if the options in physics are determinism vs randomness?
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@iw
Coincidentally came across this blog post today from a very respected source: https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2024/01/free-will-good-riddance/ Really liked this section:
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@timcox
Yes Called = saved Hot take: God’s goodness is so good that in the end everything will make sense
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@berensp.eth
No. Because God would necessarily be the author of evil—as opposed to passively permitting it—since He determines every action (including evil ones).
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both, until you fuck around and find out
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@zherring
Yes and No. I've been taught that, in the original Judiac tradition, it wasn't a dichotomy as much as two seemingly-but-not-actually exclusively truths contained paradoxically in the vast nature of G_d. It was subsequent influence of Greek philosophy that introduced the binary.
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@sgt-sl8termelon
There’s a logical case to be made for predestination, but lots of good reasons to not believe in it. Within Christianity there’s a strong anti-predestination crowd and and predestination crowd, right? This is a debate that takes paragraphs to unravel.
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Yes AND no. Depends on your perspective. If you are viewing things from God's perspective then everything is predestined. If you are viewing it from a human perspective then everyone has free will.
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@chukwukaosakwe
Too broad. Do you mean "has God decided to save some people and not others?"
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@mrpinkwins
No. We choose to deny or accept the inheritance that is provided. God doesn't force us into love and adoption.
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