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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
I love nature. But one thing I am forced to admit about nature is that many of the things that make nature pleasant in practice are actually very artificial: * Clothing and equipment * Public toilets at most 1km away in city parks * Paths, trails, roads * Dangerous animals removed * Lots of active maintenance
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Nature is great. But pure "nature" is pooping in the forest with nothing to wash your hands, then fighting off a bear and then tripping over a branch and getting a wound, and three days later realizing you have a serious infection.
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Les Greys
@les
co-creation > nature (I really hesitated pressing cast)
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Venkatesh Rao ☀️
@vgr
Nature!™
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What do you mean by active maintenance?
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@mattdesl
Portage camping in Canada is a bit less like this. Pictured below is a typical “thunderbox”.. https://i.imgur.com/gaywTCl.jpg
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@wijuwiju.eth
Dosed nature without much human intrusion while keeping civilisation comforts is super nice
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@ayushm.eth
https://www.buttersafe.com/2022/07/28/off-the-grid/ https://i.imgur.com/VkWiZcb.jpg
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“In the first place you can't see anything from a car; you've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk, better yet crawl, on hands and knees, over the sandstone and through the thornbush and cactus. When traces of blood begin to mark your trail you'll begin to see something, maybe. Probably not.” - Ed A
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Brent Fitzgerald
@bf
Yes, most of the universe is impossible to experience directly and unequipped.
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@elizabeth
The etymology of wilderness anchors back to "lair of the beast" The etymology of paradise anchors back to "walled enclosure"
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Which one of these most affects the experience? I’m thinking removal of predators, but making hiking naked mandatory would be pretty entertaining too.
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@joeblau
Sounds like you love the city.
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antimo 🎩
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Michael Pollan talks about this in one of his earlier books, "Second Nature". V interesting
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@nor
this is true as long as we view nature as just a thing that's there to serve and entertain us
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@rish
There’s some out-there nature (e.g. Kobuk Valley in Alaska) that removes some of this artificialness. Still need clothing and survival equipment though. Hard to enjoy nature without the first bullet.
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Here's a pic so you never have to venture out into such dangers ser... https://i.imgur.com/9lbbrlH.jpg
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@tnorm
But that’s the point is it not? The greater the isolation and exposure, the greater the vulnerability, the more awareness you gain for your surroundings and the more gratitude you feel for daily life. No feeling quite like reaching the car after a 5 day backpacking trip 🙌
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I agree with your assessment of nature as wilderness and the advantages to moving away from it. I would also say that nature has a larger definition, as in nature is also what we cannot see. In terms of consciousness the nature of reality is yet to be explored.
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