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i think it’s masterful distraction strategy that we’re discussing immigrants in Ohio eating pets as some abstract definition of racism instead of focusing on the *actual* issues caused by an unchecked border (national security and debt, employment, healthcare), and i think we’re all foolish to be falling for it.

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'unchecked border' is also a buzzword and distraction these issues are not bc of an unchecked border - the us border has numerous checks in place - it is about the existing immigration policy and how we process and manage migration, asylum requests, and labor demands as you can see in replies, some folks are focusing on unchecked border. not the meat of the conversation.

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We don't share reality any longer. We don't agree on trusted sources for facts. Any debate about policy is upstream on being able to agree on facts. Until we can agree on ground truth, this will only get worse, not better.

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Unchecked border? Nani? National security and employment sure, to certain degrees, agreed. How does the border tie to debt and healthcare? I’m curious

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People don’t get elected on policy, people get elected on brand. In fact if you discuss policy you end up at a disadvantage because your opponent can skewer your policy while revealing nothing of their own. Politics is war and war is deception. It’s going to take a massive cultural shift to change it. We have to have more than 2 parties, we have to change voting systems, and we need to make people actually care.

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But who created the distraction? JD Vance and his weird cronies. No one prompted Trump to falsely claim Haitians were eating their neighbors pets. This has been a purely right wing effort to stoke (largely racial) fear about *legal* immigrants to persuade voters to choose Trump. And how can we talk about border security without talking about how Lindsey Graham himself on the Senate floor told us that Donald Trump tanked a bipartisan border security bill this year that everyone but Trump and his sycophants wanted to pass?

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How does talking about people eating pets lead to a discussion about immigration policy? Is the rhetoric not a complete evasion of the *actual* issues in a cheap attempt at fearmongering? How is it anything other than what the most obvious conclusion is? One could debate immigration but it is manifest that the people taking about pet eaters have no interest in doing so. They don’t deserve legitimation.

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I’d see this all the time when I worked in justice system policy. I think a big flaw in leftist tactics is not making moderates feel safe before proposing policy. Amygdala/primal fear overrides logic in most people so they don’t process logical arguments about long term consequences.

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You are the most based person within a 1000 mile radius of LA

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Maybe a a masterful distraction strategy or a concept of a plan…we will see. ⏳

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Of course. Because the discourse is not intended to inform you, or get you closer to a solution, but attract votes. Stated vs revealed.

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but if we solved the problem, it wouldn't be a talking point to run on! https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/23/senate-democrats-immigration-border-bill

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Unironically think one of the benefits of Elon running twitter at the moment is he is elevating the national debt discussion, and it’s finally getting into a broader discourse.

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Address real life pressing issues That should always be the focus

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The issue is random undocumented immigrants in OHIO who are so hungry they are eating pets bruh wtf

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The "distraction" about immigrants eating cats was 100% perpetuated by Republicans, so maybe they shouldn't have done that if they wanted to talk about any real issues.

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It's hard to have nuanced conversations about immigration which is why Republicans tend to gravitate towards migrant crime or now migrant pet eating. People understand that. They don't understand that states are using emergency medicaid dollars within emergency rooms to provide care for undocumented individuals.

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idk if I'm wrong here, but the way I see this: 5% of people maybe truly believe this story and think it's a pb 45% of people think this extravagant but still relay it because they either find it laughable, or cynically want to exploit it for political benefits. 50% think this story is BS So personally i dont think we're "all falling for it", I think there's a very small part of the population *actually* falling for it.

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Ya, like the fact that undocumented workers paid 96.7 billion in state a federal taxes in 2022 and how devastating it would be to our economy if we shipped them all out the way Trump is proposing.

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masterful plan to make the story up and inject it into the debate? This resurged narrative that "Haitians eat cats" is rooted in a very specific anti-african barbaric sentiment. The border deal was killed as a publicity stunt. WE are not falling for it

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