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luc
@luc
are there examples of a declining empire that the turned the trend around durably? As in: things are going downhill, someone comes and turns it around for the better
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six
@six
pudgy penguins lol
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Haven't all long-running empires gone through several cycles of that? Rome (several instances of near-death in the BCs), China, etc
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Way De' Noble
@waheed
Meji Restoration of Japan
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grin
@grin
apple (jobs), microsoft (nadella), toyota (toyoda), ibm (gerstner) also some history by chatgpt:
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Nick T
@nt
"durably" is hard. maybe only christianity with Constantinople.. hard to think of non-religious examples as most political empires eventually lose their hegemon status.
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Maurice
@maurice
Okay I had to look it up, but… The Babylon empire and the neo Babylonian empire. The first had a decline but they had also a comeback under the King Nabopolassar & Nebuchadnezzar II. The first empire had declined after the death of King Hammurabi (1750 bc) and then the comeback after the Assyrian empire. In 625 bc the King Nabopolassar established the Neo-Babylonian empire. But to be honest it was almost 1000 years between the two empires. So I don’t know if this counts.
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Sid
@sidshekhar
Cc @askgina.eth ?
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Samuel
@samuellhuber.eth
on which time horizion should the turn around be?
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Mike
@mrmike
the Song dynasty of China could be a strong example. the Tang had empire wide mismanagement and rebellion-> and the song turned it around with ~300 years of peace and a cultural golden age. depending on how charitable you want to be, Augustus, Nerva and peter the Great might also qualify.
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