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@corbin.eth
I always hear Chamath / Elon talk about energy costs going to 0 in the next decade or two. What's the reasoning behind it? Nuclear? Better solar? Anyone have thoughts on that space? ๐Ÿ”‹
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@corbin.eth
Summarizing here: * Solar is efficient & cheap enough now to install and has near 0 opex => makes every house a net producer of energy * Assumption that ~100M US homes will install solar since it's basically profitable * This forces utility monopolies to change / become more competitive * Costs drop near 0 as a result
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Jason Badeaux
@jasonbadeaux
Renewables (esp solar) have essentially $0 opex over their lifetimes And economies of scale / Wrightโ€™s Law continue to collapse capex
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Eli
@eq
This article is really good: https://www.worksinprogress.co/issue/energy-and-abundance/
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Dan Romero
@dwr.eth
Solar cost curve
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Solar costs have been decreasing for years. Really itโ€™s the cost of battery production that falls over time; we get better at it, economies of scale, suppy & demand. Then thereโ€™s (please god) nuclear which is the only thing that will save us ๐Ÿ™ƒ
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@m-j-r.eth
adding on to the trend analysis and them talking their book, I think there's hope that subsidies for electrified applications like EVs will be a forcing function for further grid development with renewables. but I wished they were more specific about which storage method becomes the cheapest.
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@phil
Chamath and Elon are both big solar advocates.
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@lsn
Solar and fusion I believe Solar has become 99.6% cheaper since the 1970s
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@breck
I always wonder what are the negative second order effects of energy going toward zero? Like, I'd keep my A/C on all the time. Wouldn't waste heat go up exponentially?
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Arthur
@conft
Should research for solar more. Love idea of own energy.
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@lucaspon
Mostly falling renewables cost, but there's been a large number of fusion breakthroughs and redesigns lately.
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@neilg
They assume fusion I believe. 20 years would be aggressive though
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