Farcaster

degen and ham chains were mistakes and they set the whole farcaster ecosystem back

im posting this after reaching out to @jacek and @deployer privately, but since they both answered that they have no plans on sunsetting the chains, i want to give a heads up to all other teams building their economies on farcaster:

don't launch you own chains

1. fc ecosystem only has a chance to work if there is a lot of liquidity in one place
2. separate chains fragment the liquidity and only benefit the passive token holders (less sell pressure) and mev bot operators (arbitrage between chains and pools). actual users pay in UX, mev and fees
3. devs who want to launch integrations with these projects are fucked because most infrastructure providers don't support these small chains

im building supercast wallet and it's beyond frustrating to see how close we were to having something truly great and how much harder it is to build a good UX on top of these projects because they selfishly decided to launch their own chains

i should reiterate:

1. i have huge respect to both @jacek and @deployer and believe they know what's the best for their users, much better than i do
2. i'm obviously biased since supercast wallet will be a frontend over these apps and it's in my best interest for them to be as interoperable as possible
3. i'm pro innovation and pro people doing whatever they want — but if you want your app to be easily accessible to majority of farcaster users, you should just launch on base

also:
some of you have really no idea what you are talking about, what the fuck are these replies

Currently deploying. Unofficial head platypus of /lp 

customer support @supercast

trying to sound smart /doingnumbers

made me lol 
todays entertainment taken care of

Dunning Krueger... Some are at the peak of mount stupid.

However, Read and take in the constructive feedback. I love hearing these sides of it all. 

I appreciate your response to "build on base" as that's what makes this Web3 world great... This IS an option.

Agree. Actions will always bring us something good.

lol at the last statement.

It’s important to have these conversations, and it’s important to express differences.  

There may be a use case in the future for degen/ham chain. I am apprehensive right now because of issues I’ve had in the past but it’s up to waaay more than just me to see what will happen in the future.

You feeling okay? I read most of them and seemed like legit answers.

While I don't really understand the value add of a DEGEN or Ham L3 at this stage (and haven't dug too deeply if I'm honest), Farcaster needs to be bigger than just base. The constant pushing of Coinbase wallet for frame mints almost drove me away. If this place is is purely Coinbase Social, that's an L in my books.

Re some replies: it might be the Dunning Krueger effect

Innovation and accessibility for users are really important

its always a dilemma these days once you have attention - do you keep using other chains or just launch your own chain given so many options for SDK solutions from Arbitrum, Optimism etc.

Main rationale is controlling the whole UX & fees economy, but can come at the cost of hindering adaption for sure.

These are great takes, especially for making Farcaster more accessible for early builders and users. And the infrastructure to make multi-chain work is simply not there. However, I personally feel it's BAD to create the perception that FARCASTER == BASE. This is simply not true. We have Arbitrum, Polygon, and other EVM chains building applications on Farcaster. Shoot, we even have some Solana applications building on Farcaster. This is good. We need this. Bring on the alt L1s, non-EVM L2s, and niche L3s! All of crypto wins if the most successful social network in Web3 is multi-chain.

Side Note: This is not shade to Base L2. The perception that Farcaster is/should be exclusively Base is mostly deserved because that team, and Jesse in particular, has been relentless at gaining adoption here. Oh, and the founders are former Coinbase employees, lol.