Vitalik Buterin on Warpcast

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One other thing that worries me is how a lot of recent SV tech rhetoric is much more nationalist than before. Ensuring "we" win the global competition. People being tribal is inevitable and can sometimes be channeled toward good, but it's not the sort of thing you want from a global technological vanguard community. I much prefer the old SV that idealistically identified itself with the progress of all of humanity. One reason I really appreciate crypto is that I think it still has that spirit.

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Well at least tech right has a broader sense of “we” than right right Also the public arguments aren’t necessarily the private views.

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do you think it's a "recent" change? i feel like even in SV tech, that nationalist sentiment has always been there, but only more recently has it felt like that status has been somewhat challenged, which is what's driving this suddenly ugly display of such sentiment outright

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Partly driven by the appeal of the Trump era. Silicon Valley realized there’s a larger untapped market being underserved that benefits from nationalist rhetoric and attitudes

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Feel like that’s partly the American Dynamism trend and funding defense tech

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Isn't this just incentive alignment, though? The arc of traditional SV tech is big data / AI, which has heavy energy and hardware cost components, as well as great supply chain risk. You need a nation state's muscle to be able to "win" that game effectively Whereas crypto is more virtualized (by design) and incentives actually promote global / cross-border cooperation (that's the best use case for the tech) This is a weird inverse form of Conway's law

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“Nationalism teaches you to take pride in things you haven't done and to hate people you've never met.”

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That's what I'm here for. I believe humanity has to unite to solve our collective problems together and somehow get through all of the crises facing us like nuclear weapons, climate crisis and related issues like water problems and mass migration, power centralization / capitalism / imperialism / whatever you want to call it... We have to be able to adapt beyond wars. Nationalism is a dead end for humanity.

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defense contract and military industrial complex go brrrrrrrrr

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There’s definitely an unhealthy confluence of nationalists and techno-opportunists in SV; masquerading as techno-optimism…but it’s really just “we win…we profit” stuff. I don’t want to see it co-opt crypto…which can succeed regardless of geopolitics.

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