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Thibauld
@thibauld
RFK Jr's campaign showed that it's impossible to have a 3rd party candidate in the US, it's just too hard. The guy had the name, the signatures and the political opportunity... yet he had to stop. IMHO the next best realistic chance to fix politics is to change the voting method used in primaries. As a society, we're so used to choosing 1 candidate among many that we forgot (i) that other methods exist and (ii) how we vote massively impacts the political life. This TED talk from Andrew Yang is a great introduction to this rabbit hole 👇 https://youtu.be/1Ws3w_ZOmhI?si=14rN5cIPqtsRaQOZ
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Satoshi Tomatomoto
@tomato.eth
I agree that the only way to make 3rd parties viable is to change the way voting works, but RFK Jr was also not a good candidate. Aside from his name, he's most famous for being an outspoken antivaxxer. He embraces political ideas that most voters simply don't like, he has all sorts of skeletons in his closet, and to top it off his voice sounds like a cartoon villain. He never would have been a serious contender, even with a perfectly fair voting system.
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Cool Beans 🌞
@coolbeans1r.eth
Because he is nuts?
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s5eeo
@s5eeo
There is a great video by Veritasium that illustrates problems with the voting method and what other alternatives are there. It seems like there is so much room for improvement in first-past-the-post voting systems. Video link: https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk?si=uUU7S0JrJg3jAKcv
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Vinay Vasanji
@vinayvasanji.eth
No point having primaries even with a new voting method if one party changes whos on the ticket without any votes
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drew 🌊
@drews.eth
Ranked choice voting seems like it could help third parties. If not that then maybe banning straight ticket voting - have always thought it’s absurd anyway.
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Joe Toledano
@joetoledano
It's maybe a function of the challenges in US politics to: (1) establish a platform catered to the fringes (ex: anti-vax) -> (2) capture those segments -> (3) expand platform to absorb adjacent voter segments from existing parties while maintaining the base-> (4) resist joining the existing parties -> (5) continue to win over more voter segments from existing parties while still having the fringe base Very reductionist (and probably flawed), but I think it's particularly tough when a politician's voter base is on polar opposites value-systems of the incremental voter-bases they'd need to have a shot.
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Beninem
@beninem
RFK was weird AF, destined to lose from the getgo and no one ever took him seriously. I'd say if anything these 3rd party candidates are actually in place to pull people apart from the middle and to their far edges. And pretty much a 3rd party can win if the candidate ISN'T weird AF and has largely different social views from their party. We just haven't seen it yet. Yang wasn't it. While he was normal the dude was far left on the progressive spectrum with UBI. Green party candidates are similar. Libertarian candidates are similarly too far right. Show me an otherwise normal candidate though with slight modifications, like a slightly pro-abortion Republican or a mostly anti-abortion Democrat and I'd show you a legit third party candidate who legit gets media attention.
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Vladyslav Dalechyn
@dalechyn.eth
Two is an excellent choice because it often presents contrasting options, such as coffee with sugar or without sugar, with milk or without milk. When the number of options increases to more than two, the choices become more localized, like coffee with milk, sugar, or marshmallows. At this point, brain debates in three dimensions and so on
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