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can any AI big brains pls shed light on how meaningful the deepseek situation is?

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It’s awesome there’s a competitive open source model! It’s scaring American companies. Meta is annoyed they’re behind because THEY were going to be the OSS company. Many American AI people are trying to FUD it by saying the low compute cost is propaganda and China has a bunch of smuggled chips so it isn’t actually that compute cheap. Orgs like hugging face are trying to replicate the results so we’ll see.

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1) It's a large efficiency improvement, but I'm not sure how well using partial params plays out with multiple models running/competing for RAM/compute. 2) It's a very direct attack on the American intelligence market by China. 3) I am not switching to it from O1 in Cursor, for example. I'll try it, but like, ugh, idk, read #2 again. I don't think OpenAI will die. Guys like DWR have been anti-Sam since the start. Losing OpenAI for DeepSeek as our main connection would be tragic, imo. It's a new, really good, and cool model, but it's definitely getting full attention atm. I think we'll pass them up with another major innovation soon. Until then, I assume China wants to know how Americans think, work, and their phone data where available. TLDR: It's really great that something competitive with O1 was made open-source, and it was better than all pre-existing open-source models. O1 is old now, though.

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It's China's checkmate to OpenAi ♟️

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Model results are really compelling Biggest problem is that it breaks the whole narrative that OpenAI and other labs have around costs of running the models, and their respective business models (and stock prices) I think it also opens up the possibility aperture too, that maybe other 10-100x improvements are out there that we don’t know about yet Feels like scortched earth is something a competitor would do if they didn’t have a good chance of winning the race

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Either this signals a shift away from "we would rather overspend than underspend on AI" and western companies start focusing more on better impact per dollar, or nothing changes and we forget in a few weeks when another model comes out.

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