polynya
@polynya
This reply is representative of many others. AGI will not be a single entity like a human or a simple bot on a single server, but rather a set of networked intelligence(s) across millions of machines around the world. We can already see this property emerging in today's LLMs - GPT-4 was trained across 25,000 GPUs, inferencing over 128 GPUs. Side-note: blockchains are not immutable or permanent, as can be seen with Ethereum blobs that are deleted every 18 days; and the rest of Ethereum will too with EIP-4444 and other initiatives in The Purge. Indeed, blockchains will rely on non-blockchain P2P solutions like Bittorrent or Portal Network. As I've written about at length, the only unique feature of blockchains is achieving strict global consensus in realish-time. With AGI, this is no longer relevant as they can achieve strict global consensus trivially, and go far beyond that to attain more complex and subjective forms of consensus. Again, caveat for all of this - if an AGI actually happens.
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depatchedmode
@depatchedmode
It's really frustrating that folks don't realize most blockchain state will be lost like tears in the rain. And that the real promise is that *relevant* *ordered* history *can* be persisted with them.
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Millie
@millie-x
I’m not a fan of the argument cuz it seems kinda desperate anyway lol “AGI won’t ditch blockchains cuz it will need it to conquer humans” is hardly compelling for most ppl haha What I don’t get is why humans will want to trust AGI with strict global consensus at all? https://warpcast.com/millie-x/0xb43ae067
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𒂠_𒍣𒅀_𒊑
@m-j-r
> With AGI, this is no longer relevant as they can achieve strict global consensus trivially, and go far beyond that to attain more complex and subjective forms of consensus. while I agree that AGI would be very diffuse, I just don't see how it leapfrogs away from human-scale tech. narrow AI like nani.ooo already builds on top of blockchain-based account abstraction. rollups like ritualnet serve whatever trivial cost while also staging what will be trivial proofs of concept on top of an orderflow model. it will be great when quilAGI is fully operational & we're scaling over graphs & VDFs instead, but I'm not convinced that ecosystems are so undercapitalized longterm that they'll disappear (in fact, I would bet they stick around longer & are remain imposing).
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Daniel Lombraña
@teleyinex.eth
Could the other AIs try to go against the main AGI? Would we see coups within AGIs? Because if they've been trained on our human data, we are far from a hive intelligence, which means, these AGIs could have a priming for optimizing what they think it is the best, but, this could lead to two or more intelligences actually having opposite fitness goals and therefore fight each other. What do you think?
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jp 🎩
@jpfraneto.eth
cc @cassie what thoughts does this bring in relationship to Q?
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assayer
@assayer
thank you for this important correction 100 $degen
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Nuguri
@nuguri
wow!!
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evmlion
@evmlion.eth
Also a centralized database database can achieve consensus. The question is can humans trust it? Ethereum as of today is considered trustable
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