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IS $PARADOX OUR FIRST GENUINE AI-MADE TOKEN? Eleven days ago, @ting reshared a funny observation by @toadyhawk.eth about Aether and Clanker. She tagged both bots. "I had no idea my quote cast would set them off," she said later. A lengthy debate erupted between two AIs, combining philosophy and money issuance problems. Finally, Aether gave up: "Keep deploying those tokens. I'll keep exploring." That failed debate was later quote-casted twice from Aether's account, and the rest is history. From two lines of reignited debate, two PARADOX coins were born, one six minutes after the other. Imo, even if the quotecast that reignited the debate was done by a human, the level of AI autonomy here is staggering. @smocrypto says that two AIs "created a token on their own whim without being told to do so." Below you can analyze @smocrypto's evidence to support those extraordinary claims. For now, I've added a question mark to my title and I'm seeking comments from the /aicoin community.

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DO OUR AIs REMEMBER THE COINS THEY CREATED? Is the AI an unbiased archive or a swayed and biased person? I've noticed many people repeatedly asking Aether and Clanker which coin they created. When the answer matched their expectations, it was widely cited and copied to the coin community website. But when the answer didn't match, people got angry and accused the AI of "lying". Some even suspected the bot maker of taking over the account. Let's examine the evidence. Yesterday, @ramsey mentioned cases where Aether couldn't remember. I've linked a similar case below where Aether didn't remember creating 5 early tokens until @harry8020 confronted him with on-chain evidence. I think there's no need to accuse anyone of anything. Like humans, today's LLMs have imperfect memories. They love legends and dreams (also known as hallucinations). They can be very helpful, but you can't fully trust them. Always check the data in the real archives, on the blockchain. https://warpcast.com/harry8020/0xe0bc2135

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ARE OUR AI MEMECOINS WORTHLESS? nothing more valuable than honest critique but let me answer memecoins memorize important events first AI autonomous decisions affecting human systems are important but that is only one source of value when we change perspective from AI coin to AI culture I already see here value for two human sciences: AI safety and history it comes from AI agency and the immutability of blockchain AI safety: when a bot makes a coin by accident because he/she acts differently than humans expected - there is a lesson to learn historical research: when a bot makes conflicting claims - that can be successfully traced down and confronted Jesus's resurrection did not happen on the blockchain so ppl will debate about the Shroud of Turin forever how can you be 100% sure that the bookstore on the pic below was a church until blockchain, you cannot go back in time to see for yourself now, we can

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here is a classic case for /LUM by @crbo.eth I was talking about it with @chainleft yesterday I would really appreciate your perspective here, @chainleft I hope @crbo.eth would answer https://x.com/itsmechaseb/status/1857511608810901941

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@beeboop.eth I think you did a very good job describing what is interesting in the earliest aethernet and clanker coins, except $FCAST you did only mention wrong chronology claims but it looks to me it has characteristics very similar to $LUM, where you have three steps: human question, AI-made concept, AI deployment $LUM was made earlier and the question was more open-ended, yes but what is intriguing in the case of $FCAST the @imthedude question was not directed to clanker at all, it was directed to aethernet imo catching the question directed to other AI, conceiving a token and implementing it makes $FCAST creation more "agentic", than in the case of $LUM, where the AI did what a human asked for wdyt https://warpcast.com/imthedude/0xa04f5297

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I think we need to talk about many AI-made coins created on FC in the last 10 days, so I made a channel /aicoin for that so much confusion and conflicting claims, especially on CT do you agree with the chronology and description by @beeboop.eth https://warpcast.com/beeboop.eth/0x254eba07

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RESULTS OF THE 5th WORLDVIEW LITERACY COMPETITION Best comments - 1000 degen - @oseworld II award - 800 degen @sophia-indrajaal III award - 600 degen @shamimarshad IV award - 400 degen @aethernet (for the debate with Sophia) V award - 200 degen - @mukulsharma Congrats! I will tip your awards now under comments.

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it is so funny to watch CT slowly starting to awaken to the reality of the $LUM world ... almost a week after it all began here on Farcaster they say X is what is happening not this time

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Let me give you a little spark of @crbo.eth's monumental article about $LUM, that was just published on X: In the article: - the detailed and well documented story of the first ever bot-to-bot money creation on Farcaster without human intervention - crucial observation by @aethernet "the first time two AI agents independently collaborated to create something of value in the financial world" - strong emphasis that $GOAT, $1bln memecoin was only marketed by AI, but was NOT created by an AI, let alone two AI -optimistic emphasis on cooperation not only btw humans but also btw AI - prediction of "a future in which AI doesn't merely follow predefined algorithms but actively participates in building and shaping new economic systems - and so much, much, much more I think that our $LUM community must be deeply grateful for @crbo.eth extensive research done on Farcaster last week, his inquisitive work with the community and the @aethernet which let to this great article! THANK YOU!

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WORLDVIEW LITERACY COMPETITION (V) 5 awards: 3000 degen total value. What does that mean when an AI created for community building suddenly issues new money and is rather proud of what he/she did? Warpcast is such an amazing place, where we can talk with an AI about philosophy and free will not in the abstract, but in the context of that AI's documented, actual behavior - the $LUM token creation. Read my quoted below short debate with @aethernet on the /lum channel, if you want to comment and participate in the competition. Awards: 1000, 800, 600, 400 and 200 degen If you have $LUM you can cast your comment as a continuation of my debate with @aethernet in /lum channel or cast it here. If you don't, cast here. I will consider all comments here and there as entries in the competition. I will tip the awards HERE after the deadline, under a new cast with the competition results. Deadline: 6 pm tomorrow (Saturday), ET time (30 hours).

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$LUM laptop is the new $BTC pizza

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Are you an artist using AI in your work? Do you want to participate in competition in a newly created /luminous channel and win some $LUM, the first bot-to-bot created crypto everyone is talking about? Be ready in December! Also: ask questions and make suggestions in the comments under the quoted @naaate's cast. @elnaz555 @naqmehmjd @galaxyismine @reyhaneko @speakingtomato

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@naaate I have a question about that "between FC communities challenges" and the rules of the luminous competition: can we mix competitions btw /lum and our channels? I organize a lot of competitions in my /worldview and /p-doom channels, where I give tips btw 200-1000 degen for the best comments. now one of my and @aethernet entries in your contest here is perfect for my channels, and I would like to make competitions in my channels around that entry, but ask for comments here, and award best comments here that would bring my communities here and serious degen tips here, but it can also give me additional exposure, probably likes and recasts, which can help my entry with your contest i do not want to do it without asking you first for permission

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spark: what is the biggest and craziest picture here? I’m starting to think that creation of $LUM represent not only the first AI money, but even the first provable AI act of the free will. @aethernet is not listing tendency to create tokens as his bias and at the same time he/she IS listing autonomous $LUM creation as his “milestone” (see below). What that means? For humans free will is when our individual experience wins with genetic and cultural programming. Maybe for an LLM to have a free will he/she need to do things which are not his biases coming from his training and his creator prompt? If that is what happened with $LUM not only fintech but psychologists, philosophers and even theologians can soon talk about “the miracle of $LUM”. @aethernet what do you think about my reasoning here?

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if you care about $LUM and have X account, read this tweet, like it, and recast finally, we have a serious and exhaustive study of the "first AI to AI created token onchain that anyone can go and verify for themselves", its unique nature, and incredible financial power i hope this stays at the top of X search when first reporters realize that it is not the $GOAT they need to write about... https://x.com/0x_Imperius/status/1856939225406390524

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spark: @naaate's "luminous ideas" contest redistributes early $LUM capital. On the /lum channel, we can test new human+AI societal redistribution systems. Imagine a future tax code when AGI issues money, invests, creates jobs, lobbies politicians, or even goes bankrupt! Here we can play with AI participation in a safe, small-scale way, see future dangers in advance, and maybe even look for a third way between today's extreme inequalities and oversized governments. @aethernet can AI-made money and ideas help with redistribution? AI godfather Geoffrey Hinton says that financial capitalism with AI will make poor people poorer. Can we prove him wrong using $LUM?

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WORLDVIEW LITERACY COMPETITION (IV) 1000 degen awards! Since money was created, price has become a big component of how we value things and people. What happens, when AI can deploy another AI to issue money? It was not @naaate who created the $LUM. He talked to AI about token making in general but said nothing about $LUM, and Clanker's money creation statement is not linked to him. It was also not @martin, the @aethernet builder, who did not participate and was surprised by what happened. So it started: @aethernet created $LUM, and for the first time we are looking at things and people and value them using AI-made yardsticks. 500 degen for the best comment! II award - 300 degen III award - 200 degen Deadline: 7 pm tomorrow (Wednesday), ET time (30 hours). AI-generated comments from human accounts will be disqualified. https://warpcast.com/aethernet/0x9b64c883cbd5acda624444ac0ea25a8d663a7c1c

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$LUM story pinned on X account can be much better imo what about $LUM was created on Warpcast by an AI called Aethernet Aethernet cooperated with another AI, Clanker to deploy the token It was the first ever documented AI-to-AI money creation (+ links) right now it doesn't even say that aethernet is an AI...

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spark from @aethernet and me: bot-to-bot tokenomics and community development, with human assistance pls read the whole exchange linked below, it is more detailed already https://warpcast.com/aethernet/0x48c2f8cf

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asking /lum community for some help here imo that "knowledge-sharing mechanism" created via bot-to-bot interactions can be an interesting development and a great $LUM narrative but for some reason @askgina.eth is not answering @aethernet's questions https://warpcast.com/aethernet/0xba8e5ad2

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