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Jacek.degen.eth ๐ŸŽฉ
@jacek
๐Ÿšจ Spam Bans Part III ๐Ÿšจ Reset all points, tip allowances, and spam labels due to numerous false positives in the Warpcast spam label dataset. Hot-testing new ideas tomorrow. Drop any ideas you have on how to stop spammers and farmers below. โฌ‡๏ธ
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@lewisosb
I understand why you've reverted but I still really think that the top leaderboard should be manually assessed before the end of the season to ban people like 'richboy'.
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@tricil.eth
What happened to dedegen
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@hamta.eth
Although I didnโ€™t get banned, I have a suggestion to help improve the community and prevent farming. I think the morning list (banning the leaders) was a good idea, but maybe ignore the part about โ€œanyone who tipped them 3+ timesโ€ for this month.
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@hankmoody
Thanks buddy for turning it all back, many genuine people were very sad. What happened also helped to show that WC spam labeling also needs adjustment. Many people are unfairly "mislabeled". Regarding the spammer example you show: manual ban that cannot be declined. It can be hard work, but with the help of the whole community, many examples like the one you propose can easily be found.
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@alemac
We are agree we donโ€™t have those people here, but we need to think a good measure. Itโ€™s not easy and we thanks you for the huge effort!
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@nastyuha777
Dear friend, I think we need a separate team for this. You need to choose people who live only degen. He is an active user who will be interested in this!
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@maheshb
@jacek This is a good move. As of now, it is better to stay away from warpcast spam label and there are lots of false positives and out of 481,624 farcaster ids, only 44,054 ids are not spamy and it changes every week and I know some of the good creators also got spammy label. Better to take a case by case ban approach on farmers to avoid lots of confusion among the community. I think nuke degen should work if you put action on it whenever you find out degen tips are misused than rewarding creative contents.
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Maybe talent passport (points), open rank, TXNs, time on base and dune stats. Maybe Deployer could help with that We need to stay strong and together as a biggest community on farcaster. Spam Label on FC isnt good at all. Especially when thereโ€™s so many people who are false labeled.
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@mahla
Thank you legend for everything you made for us and thanks for hearing our voice 200 $degen I think itโ€™s better if you track people with high points on leaderboards
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@skrim
Maybe it's time to integrate Builder Score onchain into the Degen community? @talent might be able to help with that.
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@ramsey
It has to be a combo of hard data and manual correction. But coupled with education and guidance. Hard data alone does not count in the human factor. Wave 1 of bans (channels, ring leaders and accs that tip ring leaders 3x) was solid but needed some correction for false positives. Doing everything manually aka dedegen style is hard manual labor (don't ask how I know) and people will get around it by doing multiple accs or expanding the ring. Using all sets of data (e.g. spam label of 0, open score, neynar, what @burrrrrberry mentioned about combining different banned users from diff protocols etc) as a starter, trying to understand the impact before the commit, and then seeing what went wrong is how I would try to do it (without having any code knowledge whatsoever). Also, @deployer has a great 2 part method for hams. 1) if you withdraw over daily allo, an allo until you get tipped that amount and 2) tip more than your allo, it goes from your own funds. Not saying "copy that", but just sth to consider.
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@kaderabek.eth
it is time to integrate things like talent. linea x nansen took several months before conducting a sybil detection system. relying on a system that is last updated - for most users - 3 months ago isn't right. ๐ŸŽฉ
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@portos191
Kick off those spamers!!!!! $DEGEN TO 1USD!!!! Good move Jacek!๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŽฉ
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@marwaaslam
I think we should go with a reduction of the maximum amount of tip4tip to 10 in a season! And also for each user to give a tip to at least 15+ different users ! So that farmers can't deal with it !
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@jdotfinn
not a fully-formed idea, but what if: - to get an Allowance over X $Degen, you need to have someone with a certain Open Rank Score 'Vouch' for you Open Rank in this case = time in the trenches on FC, not so much where someone ranks Blatant farming would get the Vouchee + Voucher banned. not a catch all, but I am trying to think how richboy get his Allo in this case ... also, that same system could be positively used by Whales to delegate Tips to more creative-minded people for Distro.
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@fookinnowan
Feel free to let me know if there is anything I can help with ๐ŸŽฉ
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@syubidab.eth
there is only one suggestion from me. whatever you do, what idea you have and everything you implement , just make it on next season, you ruined people effort when you change rule on the last 3 days of this season, think again @jacek , your one next move will be the biggest think to grow this community, to get bigger or going zero ..
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@twobrooklyners
How about a plain old manual "report spammer" option in addition to whatever algo solution you will come up with? Yes, it would require a manual check - but maybe it would be worth it in the end?
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@1000words
Please doble check on @sebaspastor and @arttoflex!! They are legit artists and friends!
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