what is the golden standard for self custody personal setups these days?

currently thinking 2/3 multisig with 2 hot wallets across 2 devices and 1 ledger

what is yours?

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legit question, i may be irrational here:

aren't you afraid that your private keys weren't generated properly or there was some weird leak outside of your control and your assets can be drained one day and you will learn too late?

multisig is inconvenient but the likelihood that 2 pks are compromised is much lower

IMO multisigs should only come into play when governance is involved. Not just DAOs, but even like, regular old estate planning, which might be what you're doing.
Most of what I do is shuffling funds between EOAs at different security levels, from hot Metamask wallets to cold hidden and encrypted wallets.

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if sharing your self custody setup on this level of abstraction posses a security risk, your setup isn't strong enough

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mostly this https://warpcast.com/woj.eth/0x80fed4

For personal self-custody a Ledger is the only thing I use. I think a multisig for personal use is overkill. Is there a specific threat to the private keys on the Ledger that concern you?

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examples?

hard requirement: supports all major l2s

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Have you considered account abstraction solutions?

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right now only an EOA, but I am thinking about how to add another 2fa level of security in case I do end up falling for some shady phishing scam,

right now I use hey.com for adding a layer of security against phishing attacks, I have been receiving a couple very good attempts pretending to be coinbase ...

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but still everything is EOAs, right?

do you feel comfortable with having just one secret phrase controlling all your networth?

Personally I don’t recommend using hot wallets or multi-sigs that way

I use hot wallets as hot wallets, basic hardware wallets as cold wallets, and a more complex “ice cold” storage that takes quite a bit to unravel

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yeah super excited for these once there is something production-ready

The setup you’re describing sounds good to me - perhaps will change in the future with passkey-based AA wallets over ledgers though given their recent controversies

4 of 6, other people should hold some of the keys for you (ideally, enough to recover the funds if you disappear, so you solve that problem too as a side effect)

ive been thinking about this since you casted this and i realized one of the reasons i havent fully shifted to using rainbow browser extension is im not sure theyre as battle tested as metamask when it comes to generating and securing keys

same goes for zerion/uniswap/xyz wallets

Basically this, except 2 hot wallets are strictly different hardware/OS categories (e.g. laptop and mobile).

inverting the thought process to solve for the weakest part in the loop --some combo of tech that works well with @sarcophagus 

which probably brings one back to Ledger, or the safer usage of Trezor

Keep it simple.

Lean heavily on passphrases and try not to complicate the actual key storage.

Diversify hardware wallets and accounts.

Trezor supports shamir secrets for splitting your seed phrase, which is a nice tool to be combined with some of the other approaches mentioned!

Trezor supports shamir secrets for splitting your seed phrase, which is a nice tool to be combined with some of the other approaches mentioned! https://blog.trezor.io/shamir-backup-the-revolution-of-private-keys-backup-is-here-858687ed7fe7

Pretty simple. Use Waymont.co 

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