Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
As far as I can tell the Icon of the Seas is basically fine; even on the environmental front (important!) I see no reason to believe it's worse per passenger than other ships. A lot of opposition to it feels like elite snobbery against middle / upper-middle-class people. Any good anti-Icon arguments I'm missing?
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Matt Garcia
@mattgarcia.eth
something people don't consider about environmental impact is the splurge—"My 25-room mansion is eco friendly so I'm eco friendly." even if you're using econfriendly methods in your gigantic non-essential-thing (mansion,vegas casino,mega cruise...), your splurge footprint (resources, labor, land) is not eco friendly
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Right but I feel like here people are unfairly carrying over the (usually correct) association of "big = wasteful", not taking into account that the bigness here is primarily not to pamper rich people, but to serve an unprecedentedly huge number of people, who would otherwise be split between multiple other ships.
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Nico
@nicom
Or you can just have a walk in the forest or go camping and you will notice that you won't feel less happy and perhaps far more actually. Cruises and hotels and clubs and everything around mass tourism and mass consumption is pollution as it's useless. Getting a book and walking to a nice spot to read it.
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Kaplan
@kaplan
Being stuck on a ship this size with that many people is not my cup of tea, it’s kind of a nightmare. That being said, I’d do the Alaska cruiseship experience. I’ve read that each ship has a mortuary to hold geriatric populations who simply die from old age. Not a bad way to go if you ask me.
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nicovrg
@nicovrg
who may otherwise not be able to experience that service in the first place
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