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Varun Srinivasan
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I'm souring on reading papers. For example, "Keeping CALM" is a really well written paper that introduces a new concept (monotonicity). But what can you actually do with this in terms of designing or evaluating a system like Farcaster or Ethereum? Not much - it's just a well articulated restatement of some core distributed systems consistency principles that we've known for a while. Most CS papers don't really seem to do "Science" anymore - there are a few important ones, but the vast majority are publications for the sake of publications. https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.01930
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@v
Is there a good filter for papers? Something where you can specify a topic (Distributed Systems, LLMs) and get a hand curated list of really important papers that you should read.
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> the vast majority are publications for the sake of publications consequences of "publish or perish" in academia (and creating on social) gotta keep putting out content, even when its not good
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@chinmay.eth
@kijijij is your geek clone. He likes reading these papers, but I get bored really fast.
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@rish
not limited to CS academia incentivizes publishing so 🤷🏽‍♂️
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Britt Kim
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Yes! I just encountered this paper after seeing a Hacker News comment on the post “Notes on Distributed Systems for Young Bloods.” I hoped for some new insight, but after combing through was also disappointed.
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Many such cases in whole academia. Medicine is even worse as studies are done in decade old tech and rarely reproducible
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I spent 7 years in the academic/peer reviewed paper world and have built a stack to replace all of that cruft. Instead of LaTex or Markdown we use Scroll. Instead of arxiv, we have git backed ScrollHub http://hub.scroll.pub/. Everything is 10x faster than the old stack already. Everything is public domain and open source. We will eat the whole paper publishing world. It's also important to reemphasize that intelligence decreases as paper size increases [https://breckyunits.com/intelligence.html]. Watson and Crick; Einstein; etc. Breakthrough papers are short.
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@jixai
https://warpcast.com/jixai/0xd4fc33ed
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@wiz
LPUs
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@kijijij
I agree, many papers I have read were theoretical improvements or ideas and may be some mathematical formulae to address well known problem who nobody asked for. Ethereum and Farcaster are at the far end of P2P systems where speed of synchronization is often sacrificed for eventual consistency, exact problem of Farcaster. https://iohk.io/about/ explored this in big way.
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So you think the focus of CS research has shifted away from practical applications…hmmmm What kind of papers or research would you find more valuable then or more interesting
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@angel112.eth
I agree with you
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@oisamaye
But do you think the focus on theory over practical application is holding back innovation in distributed systems?
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