Ryan Sean Adams (rsa.eth) on Warpcast

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Ryan Sean Adams (rsa.eth)

I'm convinced of two things: 1) Crypto's original sin was not incorporating privacy into its foundation. 2) They'd never have let us get this far if we did.

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I don't think it really would have been possible. Considering Zero Knowledge gadgets didn't really exist in production until what? 2021, it would have been way harder to implement programmable cryptography at scale any earlier than today. The math just wasn't there.

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Possibly. But everything has trade offs. Remember one of the premises is all this is an effort to have transparency and an open worldwide public ledger. Perfect world: Banks, Institutions and Governments should have public transparency. Citizens should have privacy.

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Kames pfp

If we had privacy from the beginning it would have been a lot harder to meme the thing into life. Blockchains would have been tooo cypherpunk. Useful but not really good at capturing peoples imagination or facilitating interoperability early on.

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Yup. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.

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@oliverk120.eth

yeah the lack of privacy has really stopped me from using my ENS in a meaningful way... may just get another one that I don't link to my main accounts to play around with

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Ehsan pfp

For proof of point 2 see Monero and Zcash delistings on CEXes, or Tornado Cash.

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Nah, selectively permissioned privacy is more of an issue. power dynamics and abuse by any “unmasker” Idk if we’ve actually seen a zero privacy system to make that claim. Most privacy arguments simply address the symptoms of problems. E.g financial privacy to protect from baddies- the baddies are the problem.

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@patrickayelle.eth

Im keeping an eye on Roman’s trail

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Yeah, I think the way it's been done is maybe the only way it could have worked. Privacy is important, and can be built once blockchain is sufficiently unstoppable. I could be wrong, but we will see. I think things like being able to prove your funds haven't mingled with an attack is important.

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I’ll just leave this here… sapling a protocol in Tezos which allows privacy preserving smart contracts 😗 https://tezos.gitlab.io/active/sapling.html

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