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Two opinions I’m starting to form: 1. In the future most data (80%) will be stored in one or more decentralized protocols 2. Those protocols will not use the EVM in any way Bullish crypto, bearish ETH
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It will be IPFS. CIDs provide all the verification blockchains need while providing the most amount of flexibility related to persistence, decentralization, speed, etc.
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Probably not Idealistically it could be but the reality is most people use it through a service provider - like you guys! Someone forgets to pay a subscription and everything gets garbage collected Always found other approaches to permanent decentralized storage more appealing for this reason , especially when you can pay once forever Your way closer to this then I am, so curious how you see the general landscape here I clocked out on this topic like 2 years ago so maybe I'm dated
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Why should all data be permanent? Storing data comes with a cost, so there needs to be a way to clean up the garbage no one cares about
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For sure But if it needs to persist IPFS is no better than a cloud bucket *if* you are just paying someone else to pin it (from where I'm standing - open to a counter argument!) The guarantees seem almost the same? It just feels like a choice between paying the big guy or the small guy Vs Arweave pay once for the thing you need/want to persist
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From a pricing perspective yes but from an access perspective no and imo access is the thing that matters here
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More so talking availability guarantees The person paying the bill being the guarantor in both cases In a lot of ways the ability to query the data is more important than both Which again feels like a place where IPFS doesn't beat out trad storage solutions Vs say snapchain
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Traditional storage doesn't verify the data in the same way that IPFS does. You can do it, but it's not innate to it. CIDs allow you to trust the file itself, regardless of where it comes from. The verifiable guarantee, anchored to signatures onchain, build verifiable, append only, supply chains of files. Blockchains need it, AI needs it, and IoT (robots, edge, fog, whatever) needs it.
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