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Two opinions I’m starting to form:

1. In the future most data (80%) will be stored in one or more decentralized protocols

2. Those protocols will not use the EVM in any way

Bullish crypto, bearish ETH

It will be IPFS. CIDs provide all the verification blockchains need while providing the most amount of flexibility related to persistence, decentralization, speed, etc.

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1/ Permanence is a meme. The vast majority of data should not exist for a long-time. Pruning state is necessary, deleting data is necessary.

Filecoin and Arweave don't make fundamental sense. The idea of chopping up files into little bits and spreading them out across a global network is extremely inefficient. It causes significant issues.

First, geography matters with files. If you want them fast, they need to be close to where you are. Filecoin and arweave are the anti-thesis of that.

Second, filecoin and arweave can't run at the edge. This means they can't truly verify data on device, requiring additional systems or protocols to trust where the data came from.

Third, they both require additional (expensive) consensus mechanisms. Files don't require their own consensus mechanisms.

Filecoin and arweave will always be slow and expensive in comparison to IPFS.

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Probably not

Idealistically it could be but the reality is most people use it through a service provider - like you guys!

Someone forgets to pay a subscription and everything gets garbage collected

Always found other approaches to permanent decentralized storage more appealing for this reason , especially when you can pay once forever

Your way closer to this then I am, so curious how you see the general landscape here 

I clocked out on this topic like 2 years ago so maybe I'm dated

Whatever protocols that will be used, I think the common denominator will be content-addressable, cryptographic hashes (CIDs) of data/files.

It's the best way to pull verifiable data in distributed crypto systems that allows you to trust the data itself instead of the server/device the data is coming from.

I don’t think it’ll be one protocol, but I do think IPFS is a great example of what many of them might look like!

IPFS provides zero gaurentee of persistence.