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Jason Goldberg โ“‚๏ธ ๐Ÿ’œ
@betashop.eth
these two statements conflict with each other 1๏ธโƒฃ "there are too many engagement farmers!" 2๏ธโƒฃ "the algorithm needs to be 100% open!" #1 is a higher priority in the near term and we've made great strides on it, and we continue to work on it
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Luffy
@hinhuk
We have too many lessons from open algorithm in warpcast, ppl will easier to farm/cheat. About #1 letโ€™s me know if you need any help!
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WooDee ๐ŸŽฉ๐Ÿ–๐Ÿงพโ“‚๏ธ
@woodee.eth
Interaction create engagement, engagement earn you moxie token, Because of Moxie the engagement in warpcast is skyrocketing again, havent seen it in a while.
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Kyle Patrick
@kylepatrick.eth
Farmers will always be there whenever money is involved but I'm happy that Airstack/Moxie is taking the necessary steps to keep it at a minimum and intervening very early.
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yjx278
@yjx278.eth
Wont revealing the algo (no 2) make it vulnerable to exploitation?
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Kiraaโ™ก
@fwkiraa.eth
trying to make everyone happy is impossible. keep doing the great work
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Miguelgarest
@miguelgarest.eth
It's just impossible to have 100% of the people happy.
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@swim
no engagement farmers if you don't engage with them ๐Ÿคท ๏ฟผ
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Homeless Bruce Wayne
@homelessfleabag
Engagement farming is the worst. Buries any worthwhile discussion
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SSR
@ssr
What about hold certain amount of moxie, since new people need to buy moxie to join. And it's been 10d moxie for free โœŒ
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WG ๐ŸŽฉ๐Ÿ”ต
@wgmeets
Yeah you can't have open if you try to stop certain things, although rules are good to have so it prevents farmers from profiting with the bare minimum or something else.
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Savvy Art
@mwf
Only large accounts can succeed as 'farmers' because it's nearly impossible for smaller accounts to compete. There needs to be closer monitoring of big accounts, as some engage in unfair practices, like exchanging likes on low-quality content. The algorithm tends to favor high-ranking accounts, rather than bots or new users.
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Kreept.degen.eth
@kreept
Keep working Jason. I appreciate every ounce of effort you been putting in. You donโ€™t really have to worry about what EVERYONE has to say. We trust you enough to deliver the good stuff โค๏ธ
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Spaceman Spiff ๐ŸŽฉ๐Ÿ–
@spaceman-spiff
One interesting problem is the engagement flywheel. High SCS casters get more engagement, which artificially inflates their score as they are farmed. Their casts get promoted in the algo pushing down other content and further inflating their score.
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Kaโ“‚๏ธal๐Ÿ”ต๐ŸŽฉ
@kamadin.eth
Whenever thereโ€™s money involved thatโ€™s where you will see farmers the most
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Kevang30 ใƒ„๐ŸŽฉ
@kevang30.eth
I would like to see that my far score is at a similar level to my openrank, if both are calculated by interaction and engagement, I don't know why my places in each rank are so different. I had PB until yesterday, I have decent engagement, good interactions, and my Far Score is not improving.
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FCP
@fuckcoolpussy.eth
Farmers are everywhere, and we can't stop them, but we can create something to help reduce their impact. Currently, I don't think people are really farming Moxie, but they have started providing quality replies if you think of it that way.
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Luigi Stranieri
@luigistranieri
I donโ€™t get exactly what means 100% open algorithm. Btw Iโ€™m glad you guys working on the issues ๐Ÿ™‡๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
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Dexter
@0xdexter
Solution for #1 is limit or block posting ability through mods. everyone without PB or with less far score get blocked or limited. (Already happening) Also not every user is Builder or influencer. Itโ€™s unfair for new users including me but its your platform its your mods and its your rules.
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@toyboy.eth
Itโ€™s getting tough,I hope these doesnโ€™t cause conflicts soon,some people are okay with the high rise in engagement while some are pissed,it may have a stain on interactions long term :)
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