If you knew that the Studio Ghibli animator, Hayao Miyazaki, felt dismayed by OpenAI completely mimicking his art style and using it to grow their product without permission or compensation, would it bother you? Would you still use it? 

I haven't formed a strong opinion, just curious on everyone's thoughts.

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Yeah I think that's about where I'm at. It's tough because so much of art is learning from and imitating styles, but it's one thing to learn from and develop as a human. It *feels* to me like another thing for an AI to train on it and be able to output at a pace that no human could ever keep up with, and then for OpenAI to profit off that mimicry adds another layer of ethical concerns imo.

I didn't participate yesterday, mostly out of laziness. Seeing Miyazaki's opinion on generative AI is a further deterrent, to using Ghibli style at least. Gotta be pretty heartbreaking to see the craft you've mastered over years/decades get turned into a gimmick, knowing the AI was trained on your work without your permission.

That being said, I'm not really judging anyone for participating as long as they're not trying to profit off it

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obviously this is why we're on Farcaster, but also don't sleep on Kyla's content

https://kyla.substack.com/p/studio-ghibli-ai-classified-leaks

i was JUST reading about this in Kyla Scanlon's newsletter.

on one hand, i don't love companies training AI on art without artists' permission.

on the other hand, i believe that art simply does not belong to an artist once it's in the world (whether we like it or not).

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Here's my thoughts/questions: 

How many people fell in love with Miyazaki's art style not just because of the style but because of the movies and stories that went along with it? 

Do people love the Ghiblification because it helps them recall those same emotions and feel like part of his vision/art?

If so, how would they feel if they knew he felt dismayed by the generative recreation without his permission? 

Should OpenAI put a disclaimer that none of this was done with his permission and they don't know that he actually would be okay with it, and they're in no way compensating him? If they did, how might that impact usage?

i was JUST reading about this in Kyla Scanlon's newsletter.

on one hand, i don't love companies training AI on art without artists' permission.

on the other hand, i believe that art simply does not belong to an artist once it's in the world (whether we like it or not).

https://warpcast.com/sterschuyler/0x4de05128

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Oh, I didn't bring those two together.... now that you have mentioned it, it does bother me.