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androidsixteen
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Was talking to a founder friend yesterday who has looked into using FC as part of their gtm (they are a crypto infra co) He said the team came to the conclusion that 80% of the folks they could target here, they can get by targeting CT, hence it would be mostly redundant spend with little ROI I countered that it’s not the intersection that matters, but the difference. Meaning — the 20% of folks that are active here, but not active on Twitter, are the highest value cohort Reason being — it’s a different culture. This culture values authenticity and showing up for each other more than the general crypto population. Smaller quantity but much higher quality He grokked it but I could tell it would still be hard for him to get buy-in from the rest of his team. Sadly, I think this realization doesn’t scale well, but needs to be experienced or learned via wom from a trusted party Not sure how best to communicate “the vibes” other than one person at a time cc @kia the resident vibe lord
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kenny 🎩
@kenny
"This culture values authenticity and showing up for each other more than the general crypto population" on top of this being hard to prove (plenty of people have launched stuff/tried to market stuff on here and not received support) isn't this a function of it just being a smaller crowd? it's easy to show up when the bar for showing up is the same 100 hyper-active users
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
I mean, yeah People are nicer in small towns because they will likely run into you again Doesn’t mean they don’t gossip about you when you’re not there, or that there aren’t problems with the town But as @ccarella said, this group is very supportive of people who are earnestly building things
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kenny 🎩
@kenny
I'd say the community is generally supporting if you're "earnestly building + saying the right things" I say this as someone with experience building on the platform who knows I would receive more support and exposure for my product if I kept my mouth shut about critiquing certain things the Merkle team has done, kept my mouth shut about critiquing Ethereum, and tried to appeal to the tastemakers of the scene here by constantly praising the concept of Farcaster but I don't like holding back my opinions so I say what I want to say and build what I want to build and I'm ok with the fact I won't get the same treatment as people that jump through hoops to display "Farcaster alignment" but that's worth mentioning to your friends because if their product isn't a Farcaster product...building on here will not be as neutral as building on twitter, they will need to play the political game to get the most out of it
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
I feel you but I don’t have that same experience with Merkle, I’ve been critical of several things publicly and I find them more receptive than 90% of startups in their position I agree it’s harder to call things out here, but that’s not bc of Merkle. As an example, Degen people did not like me shitting on the L3 I flagged it in order to caution people from aping, but most of my criticisms were unheeded until the downtime / reorg fiasco
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kenny 🎩
@kenny
yeah to each their own, I've been vocally critical about the bad feed quality since February and had a different experience they were open to feedback, listened to me initially that things were worse after going algo only, and told me changes were coming to bring back the features I loved then it didn't happen, I critiqued the delay, was told basically I don't know anything, and then Dan and V unfollowed me so from my vantage point they're a bit thin skinned and as far as critiquing things goes DEGEN has always received plenty of hate from the Farcaster aristocracy so I wouldn't say it's hard to critique on here, there's always been an undercurrent attitude that DEGEN ruined the "vibe" by getting the rabble excited about something you can build on here, critique DEGEN, and still get promo from the big accounts but to give yourself the best shot you should also try to talk a lot about how Farcaster is reinventing social media and why we're all so early
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androidsixteen
@androidsixteen.eth
Not denying your experience but wanted to add an example from my experience that felt different: I disliked the Twitter cross posting feature and criticized it publicly: https://warpcast.com/androidsixteen.eth/0xc0c77196 It got some pushback from Dan, but I held my position and argued in good faith. They didn’t change anything right away, but ended up winding down the experiment recently because it didn’t achieve the results they wanted. Demonstrated intellectual honesty and a willingness to listen to people (even if there is a latency) I also put myself in their shoes and think about how it’s not easy to be building almost entirely in public for 4 years… but anyway - to each their own as you said Re: Degen, agree there is some level of holier than thou behavior towards speculation but that’s disconnected from FC — it’s also why some outsiders hate crypto (To be clear, I don’t mind speculation, I dislike L3s lol)
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kenny 🎩
@kenny
good perspective, appreciate you sharing and I did have that same experience for my whole time on here up until apparently touching one of the few untouchable topics, I always had my criticisms responded to or addressed in a cordial manner lots of things they've done well in building this place, by no means do I think it's all bad (or I wouldn't be on here so much)
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