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Justin Hunter
@polluterofminds
This is why these SSR companies want to lock you in.
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Gabriel Ayuso
@gabrielayuso.eth
What is an SSR company? SSR has been the norm since the 90s. CSR is the new kid on the block.
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Justin Hunter
@polluterofminds
Vercel. AWS. Google Cloud. Also disagree. Static html is the OG
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Gabriel Ayuso
@gabrielayuso.eth
no JS so the only way to render with logic was server side generated html
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Andrei O.
@andrei0x309
Traditional websites weren't exactly like full SSR today they were more closely related to island architecture today. Where some parts were rendered on server and some parts are rendered on client. What happened is that the server mostly PHP in the old days rendered only the html with PHP evaluated parts in it while the JS if existed was sent to the client to maybe to additional rendering. It was possible to embed a JS engine inside PHP to render everything but no one did that because of the performance issues. Also today only the initial rendering is done by the server after that the rest of rendering is done by client while in the past all HTML was sent to the client with each request. The SSR term only started to get traction when JS also become a GP server language(node.js) it was never really used to describe how rendering works before that point. Also SSR as a JavaScript concept was impossible without creating a runtime outside of the browser.
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Gabriel Ayuso
@gabrielayuso.eth
Yeah I used to build with PHP and very basic js that didn't do much other than simple ajax stuff. JQuery was the first thing that made dom generation on clients more popular but still not the norm. Browsers and computers were too underpowered.
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Andrei O.
@andrei0x309
Most popular websites were first wrote in C using CGI, and PHP was invented just a template language for C(that's why the first iterations were so C like), but I am not old enough to have have lived that. I haven't touched PHP, seriously for 2 years, IMO the language has been built for constrained conditions, the simple top down execution, and lack of async without specialized servers made it unusable for a long time to do things that is much more simple using other tech. Mostly started web dev around PHP 3.1 around early 2000's. Also PHP managed to remain so popular exactly because is so constrained, what is an issue of creating long tasks and parallel programing was a blessing for hosting providers. Also is true that CSR started to gain popularity because hardware got much better, in fact the whole JS ecosystem advancements are linked to that.
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