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In you're in favor of "AI safety" (broad definition), what's your most compelling cast-length argument?
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The technology is obviously epochal, but its path still largely unknown. It’s appropriate to have at least *some* humility toward “known unknowns” of a historical magnitude.
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@dwr.eth
When has that ever happened in history?
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@mbar
Atomic, but at least we had some theoretical models based in science. AI safety nerds use imaginary rhetoricals
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The models are historical/anthropological. Whenever a higher intelligence species encounters a lower intelligence species, or more advanced civilization encounters a less advanced one, the outcome is predictable.
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@dwr.eth
We can just unplug it?
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Hmmm i would assume once AGI is there, might be hard to pull the plug. But i might have a poor definitiation of what AGI is
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@mbar
AGI is a myth. There is no definition.
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@tldr
This is an interesting line you’re taking here (I think I agree with it) I wonder what @sam thinks
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I think AGI has a pretty clear definition, and it’s at least conceivable—it’s something (much) better than all humans at all tasks. Sticking point is whether those tasks that *require* a human body (say winning a physique competition) are relevant to ex risk.
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If today's llm could also do basic math, is that AGI or something else? I never thought of it as much better than all humans, just better than many humans at all tasks
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If the definition is “better than all humans at all tasks,” then it’s not AGI. But the intuition is correct that it starts to raise complex issues if it is strictly better at key economic tasks than a portion of the population.
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