Geopolitics

Putin's proposal from yesterday speech: Ukraine withdraws forces from administrative borders of 4 regions, takes neutrality (+ other stuff negotiated during initial peace talks at Istanbul), recognised all annexed and conquered territories including Crimea as part of Russia. Basically a peace treaty. wdyt?

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hmm curios why it is. Feels like this was done to layout potential framework for negotiations and Russia's position specifically right before the Swiss conference. Plus given that speech was to ministry of external affairs, its basically a straightforward framework diplomats can then go work with.

war opinions aside, i see no discussion about this on polish geopolitics twitter

feels like people don't take it seriously?

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Not so sure it was aimed for the western audience. Also didn't see any info regarding disarming, aside maybe from reference to previous round of talks where certain parameters for Ukrainian arm forces were specified.

So you believe Russia has no intentions to end this war, or you could define what a peace proposal is?

It's not a serious proposal, it's just there to sucker the dumbest people in western countries into thinking he has a peace proposal. 

Ukraine is supposed to give up their own territory that Putin never held (wtf), and disarm themselves. What do you think happens after they disarm themselves?

Even if Ukraine would be desperate enough to accept it, don’t think Russia will stop there

I think that it must be ended as soon as possible @wijuwiju.eth

Now we know what's Russia's "maximalist" negotiating position. Russia holds about 17.5% of Ukraine's territory. If Ukraine agrees to this deal (which they won't) that would give Russia about 22.5% of Ukraine.
To put it in perspective, I believe less than 0.1% of Ukraine's territory changed hands since end of 2022.