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On 13 February 2025, 109 civil society organizations, companies, and cybersecurity experts, including Global Encryption Coalition members, published a joint letter to the British Home Secretary Yvette Cooper calling on the UK Home Office to rescind its demand that Apple create a backdoor into its end-to-end encrypted services. The letter remains open until 20 February for additional signatories, please join Quilibrium, Tor, Zcash, Filecoin, and many others in taking a stand against this assault on our right to use cryptography. https://www.globalencryption.org/2025/02/joint-letter-on-the-uk-governments-use-of-investigatory-powers-act-to-attack-end-to-end-encryption/#dbd1ccb2-bd78-49eb-b262-b41b0bf71c72-link

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How do we know that this hasn’t already been done for another country?

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We don't, and by the nature of the laws as they tend to be written, we can't. So instead, we fight back, by making systems that can't be bent to the will of state actors that wish to destroy privacy on the web.

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Yes I don’t disagree on fighting back But it wouldn’t surprise me if the whole request originated from the UK learning that another major power already had gotten Apple to comply and they’re like “oh, we want that too!” Could we ask companies to make a statement that they have not been compelled to create backdoors by any government? Would any do it? Would feel safer knowing that backdoors don’t exist at all vs knowing that at least the UK doesn’t have one

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Oh lol, I think see what you mean Where you’re leading us, we don’t need Apple…

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> Could we ask companies to make a statement that they have not been compelled to create backdoors by any government? Sort of yes, sort of no. Companies, at least in the US, cannot be compelled by the US government to write code. They can be compelled to _not_ write code (fix a vulnerability) or to hand over key material and servers they possess. But they also can be more broadly compelled to not talk about that happening (gag order). So the idea, in principle, is that you simply repeatedly state on an interval that you haven't been given such an order. This concept is often called a warrant canary, and we used to run that for Q until we got solid advice that secret court judges very much are not fond of malicious compliance games with adhering to a gag order. So realistically, no. The only winning move is to make it impossible.

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