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A subtle but significant way that tech companies will continue to undermine user attempts to control their data, without stronger regulatory protections cc @eulerlagrange.eth @evin
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💯 In the EU you can *kind of* get a clean handoff via email whereas in CA/VA you cannot You’re right tho “Computer legible” != verifiable
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For my company /opacity we make the assumption cooperation from anyone but the user is a waste of time. It’s def an engineering approach, but we have zkTLS with the collusion issue solved. I really don’t think it’s worth trying to get companies to do stuff against their economic incentives
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Even with zkTLS you are limited by what Twitter exposes in the app itself, which is only a data subset One idea- could you zkTLS the data download itself, assuming it happens live from the app?
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Yes you could, but if the file is large it would risk timing out the request before it’s done. To fix that we’d have to sacrifice redaction support of the response. If it contains sensitive data the user may not want to share it with anyone. You have to share the whole thing to be verifiable
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The way it works is you make the request and then a day later, twitter emails you saying it's ready with a link. you go to the link and download the zip file. the question is whether opacity could zktls the download
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As I explained yes you can. But that entire zip file is what will be notarized. Selective disclosure of the contents won’t be possible without a zkVM. And you can’t prove such a ZKP on a user’s device. So you can either share everything or nothing Why not just generate proofs individually for what you want?
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I can't speak for Farcaster, but for Icebreaker, I'd like to let anyone import the entirety of their linkedin network. There are automagical things we can do if we can verify the data. I'd rather let a user do a one time import when they're ready vs individually generating proofs
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They don’t need to import multiple proofs, just generate multiple proofs while making it look like it’s one proof. LinkedIn doesn’t have the same restrictions as Twitter. They can’t limit showing you your connections. But honestly i don’t give a shit. I think the download zip route will be a lot uglier
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