gm, wake up babe

telegram sold all user data to russian government, now it's official

forbes.ru/tekhnologii/498530-mts-dogovorilas-s-telegram-o-reklamnom-partnerstve

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What am I missing in the article? It’s mentioning a partnership with Мобильные ТелеСистемы — I’d assume they have a relationship with the government (who doesn’t in Russia, you’re kind of forced to), but what about the deal means what you say it means?

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mts is virtually owned by russian government and now tg gives the government mapping between phone numbers and tg accounts

then you can match phone number to other data from other sources and boom you have a mapping between tg account and your home address

ah, gotcha. this is one of the things i dislike about signal – though not the worst of things. at least signal has E2EE for group convos, even if an inefficient model.

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agreed on signal, very much looking forward to no-cellphone signal accounts (they need to come soon)

@pugson this is how you should've asked the question to get more data (no bs like "i'm already doxxed doesn't affect me haha")

> my phone number is tied

this is precisely the problem with also connecting it to an unencrypted messenger that poses as "private" — and this is precisely the issue with telegram that we're discussing here

telegram is not private — and giving up the phone numbers of accounts to gvmnts is the last proof we need

fair enough, thanks. 

my phone number is tied to my current home address via various sources (gov biz registry, shipping companies, online orders, KYC) either way so it *still* doesn't affect me in any meaningful way.

what i can do is change my telegram phone number to minimize the risk.

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I’d like to see Olvid get more traction. E2E encrypted without phone number registration. You can create as many identities as you like.

I'd like to see Signal actually make a meaningful move with PQC, their current proposed change still hierarchically binds to EC as the root authority, so it's kind of a moot point. Also, maybe not Kyber given some curiosities happening with the NIST selection process.