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Michael
@opmichael
What Ethereum conference has the most apps? Why are we not building more apps? We already have sub-cent transactions, why do we need to focus on infra right now? I feel like I’m slowly going insane
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
In apps, 80%+ of the difficulty is in figuring out which apps actually make sense to build. I think this is why a generalized pitch of "we need apps" gets applause from pragmatist types but ultimately leads to no action - if our vision for the world is "WE WANT STUFF HAPPENING ON OUR CHAIN!", that's very uninspiring. Meanwhile, specific categories of apps are starting to do well! Lots of progress in zk identity and zk social, all kinds of interesting stuff in info finance. I think if we want more apps, a more definite-optimist approach where we talk about specific types of apps and what kind of world they will lead to will be much more effective.
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Michael
@opmichael
Point taken, I agree the "where are the apps" is a nice social media post that isn't necessarily helpful (guilty). One of my big frustrations is that as a builder / user I don't even know where to look for some of these things you mention. One reason I think we have made so much progress with respect to infra is that new ideas are constantly being evaluated and iterated on by a critical mass of engineers. I would love to have a place where the real-world-usage maxis can get together and share ideas that don't have to do with leverage or financial speculation
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Vitalik Buterin
@vitalik.eth
Maybe we need more explicit application-vertical tracks at future ethereum events 😀 First pass example list: * Privacy * Regen / public goods funding * Info finance * Decentralized social * Easy-to-use consumer payments and investment
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Sinaver
@sinaver.eth
working on the last one with @payflow :)
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Michael
@opmichael
I am 100% supportive of this, sounds awesome!
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horsefacts
@horsefacts.eth
Yes, I submitted Farcaster stuff under "Real World Ethereum" but that didn't seem quite right. "Decentralized social" would be great!
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Andrew B Coathup
@abcoathup
Where possible they would also have activations as well as talks/workshops.
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Philip Sheldrake
@sheldrake
You mentioned identity in your earlier comment, and it remains web3's Achilles' heel. We mustn't conflate information security with privacy, and we cannot substitute bureaucratic identity for human identity and expect different outcomes. So designing for human identity should be top of your list imho.
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