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Vitalik Buterin
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The voters banned banning banning banning charging too high rent. (To be clear I'm in favor of this, the best way to keep rent low is buidl buidl buidl)
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shazow
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How do you solve for predictability/stability? If you buy a home, you lock in your costs for 5-30 years, why don't renters deserve some of that stability too so they can make longer term plans and set roots in their neighbourhood?
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(To be clear I'm in favor of this, the best way to keep rent low is buidl buidl buidl) - I think this is not true when applied to finite space and resources liike capital and land. Something different when you have 2^256 slots, theoretically endless, then buidl, buidl, buidl.. :) allocating extra capital on buildings would lead to superproduction crisis while not solving renting costs.. why? vulture funds (and banks) will retire other buildings of the market to decrease the supply, increasing prices.. while all these new buildings will end empty.. this is what happened and is happening in spain.. after the called "crisis of the brick", we have enough empty buildings.. and, we have a problem with touristic renting, this is more profitable and it is decreasing the supply for neighbors with medium/lower incomes.. so, renting control is necessary at some point to control this.. or we are going to have to live in other city to allow tourists 3 months in the year (not in my city, tho, here is cold, so cheap)
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tldr (tim reilly)
@tldr
Need LSAT training to vote
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@darrylyeo
Ahahaha
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@icetoad.eth
That's such a convoluted way to frame the issue. I bet a ton of people were confused and voted the wrong way.
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@schorn.eth
Next: ban quadruple negatives.
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Nick Rishwain
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And CA has made it impossible to build. It is overly burdensome and too costly for builders to make a profit. In regards to the phrasing of these propositions, they are intentionally written to be confusing. 33 was a proposition to increase rent control statewide.
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@telcaster
For sure
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frederick
@sgniwder
this is very interesting to me. i'm not sure where this is, but i would have thought that the people renting would have voted to pass this. perhaps there's not a lot of renters or not a lot of renters that vote. i would also think that the landlord would want some stability as well. having properties site vacant while people move and then the cleanup time would likely offset any potential gain in many circumstances.
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@neozaru
And then they say that Blockchain powered online voting wouldn't work because nobody would understand it xD
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hydro-acqua
@hydro-acqua
Lvl2. “thinking” ‘no’.
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@cryptoshroom
Have u checked the amount of empty homes? Building is not the solution
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Noah Chon Lee
@noahchonlee
Do you mean you're in favor of not doing rent control or yes doing rent control? Cuz it sounds like this proposal would lead to MORE rent control if it was passed
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Charlie Feng
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+1 on building. People tend to forget that the more we build, the cheaper to build. Should be a positive loop (tho I can appreciate the 2nd order) What changes do you think would drive the biggest impact on accelerating this? More gov like zoning incentives or external initiatives like pop up city/communities?
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Sam Faircloth
@abstractartifact
The number 33 is all you need to know if you have eyes to see.
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depressivehacks
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This is so confusing. What are you even voting for?
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@phynytes
Haha lol, as usual
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Patrick Atwater
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Clearly we need more negations
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Adam Stallard
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Community land trusts are a better idea than rent controls. Keep some livable properties under partial common ownership. You can "own" them while you live there, but you can't make a profit when you sell. They return to the trust to ensure they stay affordable (if that's the goal of the CLT).
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