Vitalik Buterin on Warpcast

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Vitalik Buterin

I wonder what UN votes would look like if they were secret ballot. Each country chooses their representative, but from that point on it's up to each representative and their own conscience.

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I like to think that secretly everyone is against murder

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wouldn't that just invite massive bribes for vote changing?

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without the external pressures of: • their own country • how others perceive their own country

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It would be like a Survivor these days: lots of blindsides

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Benjamin Basche

Why would the US ever allow the UN to have some kind of actual power ?

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fascinating reflection! ...could imagine a general bias towards being corrupted. i.e. fewer cases of a conscientious person voting against his evil country wishes vs a corrupted person voting against his decent country wishes.

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Then it would just be who wants to accept the most cash from China. Probably not too different to today. 🤷

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I suspect you’d also have to have the final tally be secret if you wanted to make it a conscience-only result

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That’s an insane amount of power without any accountability to your constituents. Would strongly reject

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That’s a terrible idea man. Delegates need to be accountable and immediately recallable if they are faithless. Check out Democratic Confederalism and Abdullah Ocalan.

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I looked into this — UN has 3 vote types: - Recorded (individual votes noted) - Summary (totals without individual votes) - Secret Ballot (for elections, votes kept confidential) Seems like: Decision impacting public = public vote Decision impacting assembly = private 🤷

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Our organization is regularly speaking at the UN and it’s amazing the huge amount of behind the scenes work that’s involved in just lobbying governments to listen when something big is happening - So much persistence & noise! With the secret ballot point - We only wish! It’s very difficult to stomach right now.

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ETH to the moon!

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Hey @vitalik.eth . Somewhat related to what you bring up here, at a more local community level. I am spending some of spare time researching ways to improve community governance and neighborhood safety. I wrote a short piece on the idea here: https://ihte.substack.com/p/more-effective-local-and-community

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Defeats the point of preventing countries from going to war with each other if the delegate doesn't represent the country

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I’ve had similar though experiments with voting in the US and ability to verify your vote was counted. If there was the ability to verify legitimacy of a vote would it help? I arrived at the conclusion it probably would not if those participants in the election didn’t believe in mathematical proofs.

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Most likely they'll act for personal interest and an even deeper than now favor's market would spawn imo. Where do humans draw the line between self-interest and great of good ( most cases there are incentives to keep the 2 not aligned unfortunately)

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Those representatives will then go public with their ballots. To curry favour with whomever they believe are their masters.

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The UN is such a joke anyways it would *almost* be fun just to watch the nonsense that would ensue.

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