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Venkatesh Rao ☀️
@vgr
In politics right now, almost nobody is actually choosing a side; 90% of us are choosing a delaying tactic, waiting for a sane-seeming viable position to emerge, and in the meantime uncomfortably signaling *against* the most insane seeming position among the one available. You’ll notice that most people are far more comfortable attacking either right or left than defending or justifying either. Ie it’s “attack wokeism and stay studiously noncommittal on fascism” or “attack fascism and stay studiously quiet on wokeism.” The 9% who defend an explicitly adopted side mostly sound either clueless enough or grifty enough to ignore. The 1% people who need to be taken seriously and also adopt primarily positive and public defenses of right or left, with attacking the opposition being a secondary priority, are serious only to the extent they are powerful. Not because their positive vision of their “side” is coherent. Dunno if this is a gloomy thought or a positive one though.
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Patrick Atwater
@patwater
'The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.’
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Snibb123.eth
@snibb123
This strikes me as moving the goal post. “No one does this except the people who do, but they’re wrong so I ignore them.” Kinda myopic, no?
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Ben Basche
@basche42
Well the death of politics produced this moment, so what could go wrong ?
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Daniel
@dmg
It’s a very gloomy and oppressive atmosphere. Almost no one with nuanced views are saying what they actually think because of varying combinations of precarity and strategic sycophancy.
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Alephwyr
@alephwyr
What's wokeism? Is it specifically the grift dynamics of upper class highly educated minorities? Is it the thought of the South Africanization of race relations in the west? It seems like the range of credible objections to wokeism is much narrower and less fundamental than those of fascism. It really feels like you yourself are playing it safe by treating white ethnonarcissism and minority ethnonarcissism as equivalent without actually drilling down into the substance of specific objections.
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Nasdaq Nico
@enceesolutions
I really concur with this. At the most crude level, yes humans will besmirch and attack a concept/idea/group that they either through fear or other means- simply don’t understand. Political affiliation isn’t the only thing. Upon closer examination, I’ve seen far far far fewer incidences of Righties attacking lefties unprovoked and typically it’s just the stupid ones. Remember we lump everyone into two categories like this and it muddies things heavily. The key difference is the “left” I’ve noticed is arguably always the side inciting unrest against (anyone) with a differing set of views and want to be “educate” them otherwise they’re a transphobe/racist/whatever. And globally the world is rooting for “the right” because it’s finally coming to light how absolutely asinine and unnaceptable the counterparties behavior is. Abhorrent corruption and gaslighting the masses for starters. Xoxo, ironically a gay guy based outta LA
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Jai
@jaivsdawrld
Sounds kinda gloomy. But very valid
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