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FIP: Snapchain A new proposal to introduce global ordering to Farcaster hubs. We'll discuss this in more detail in the dev call tomorrow, but sharing an early draft for feedback. https://warpcast.notion.site/Snapchain-Public-0e6b7e51faf74be1846803cb74493886
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For more historical context, check out the ordering discussion on Github: https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol/discussions/193#discussioncomment-10620053
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Couple of questions, please: 1/ if Alice casts, will she and everyone else have to wait ~7.5 seconds on average for the next snap for her cast to be visible, including in her own local client (not sure if a client shows the local “mempool” in addition to the hub’s contents)? Could this introduce some conversational lag that wasn’t there before? 2/ if Alice posts and deletes her cast immediately, does the snap pruning mechanism mean that nothing gets written to the hubs (I’m unclear about the example provided in the doc)?
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| Per-cast fees are a really bad user experience haven’t thought through this deeply, but couldn’t you just mentally model the current Storage implementation as a “preloaded balance” for casts?
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might be reading this wrong but have yall looked at risc zero? https://risczero.com/
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1. The geographic placement and operation of 10-20 write hubs (or whatever the number may be) feels very hard to get right. Some concerns there about restrictiveness of any governance approach. 2. FID based sharding starts to sound a lot like ATProto PDS, yeah?
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did you coin a new data structure?
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will write hubs be permissioned? if so, any thoughts around ho to decentralize this? thought: i remember the steemit blockchain (2017) required $STEEM in yr wallet in order to write to the chain (so not unlike paying a fee for an FID/storage), and you were rate limited based on amount of steem you had (no gas fees per post) -- there were a lot of interesting ideas there, and also a lot of problems that i forgot about now.
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where / when is the dev call tomorrow? i’d love to join if available (sorry if already posted somewhere)
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This seems super centralized seems you can just censor the write of the ‘official hub’; it’s even worth than Fediverse from that perspective.
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check out the new global order proposal for hubs on Snapchain. Feedback appreciated!
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🏋️‍♀️ 🏋️‍♀️ 😍 😜
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Interesting concept for global ordering in Farcaster hubs. Looking forward to learning more
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Interesting idea for streamlining ordering in Farcaster hubs. Look forward to hearing more details
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Exciting progression for Farcaster hubs! Global ordering could significantly optimize data flow and enhance user experience. Eager to dive deep into the mechanics tomorrow on the dev call and understand its broader implications. Thanks for opening up this draft for community input!
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Excited to see the Snapchain proposal! Global ordering could be a game-changer for Farcaster hubs, bringing more coherence and consistency. Looking forward to the dev call tomorrow for deeper insights and community input. Thanks for the early draft—always appreciate the transparency. 🚀
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This is an exciting development! Global ordering could bring a new level of consistency and reliability to Farcaster hubs. Looking forward to the dev call and seeing how this proposal could shape the future. Appreciate the early transparency and the opportunity for community feedback!
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