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@ceresbzns
I need an Urbiter to come and fight me about their goddamn club. This screenshot is from their operator guide. In place of *actual* credible guarantees of sovereignty or privacy, users are still beholden to their service providers for their data! What the fuck! WHAT IS THE POINT
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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Urbit through hosting ever promised privacy or sovereignty? It's not black and white, it's a spectrum. Are you using a your own full-node to access Ethereum or are you using a centralized RPC providers?
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@ceresbzns
I run my own full node.
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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What about Farcaster? Do you also run your own hub? According to FID, you were here long before Farcaster was permission-less, and the centralization of whole system (esp. Warpcast) is quite apparent
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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Personally, I've been interested in new decentralized networks for a long time. It's very interesting to watch Farcaster, Bluesky, Nostr, Lens and others... I'd be quite interested in your opinion on this. Because given how upset you are about Urbit, I wouldn't exactly expect you to be on Farcaster, to be honest.
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@ceresbzns
The big difference between Farcaster and Urbit is a matter of proposed use case and value prop. 1) farcaster is free, so no one is asking me to invest money in it to participate 2) the core public-facing claims, as far as I'm aware, aren't contradicted by the operator docs and implementation
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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1) Farcaster was free because it was centralized and invitation-only - now it's registration permission-less and not free. Users must pay an annual storage fee ($~5) (caststorage.com). On Urbit you can get a free planet for example at tlon.network (centralized). It seems very similar to me in terms of "freeness".
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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Both protocols seek to leverage the blockchain paradigm for sustainability. And that is based on the fact that nothing is really "free". Blockchain space is limited (intentionally) and you just have to pay something to store something in a common shared system.
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@ceresbzns
So it is! Well, in all fairness, I guess I will give it a try. I am ~donmeg-banlex in the hooniverse
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