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@ceresbzns
I need an Urbiter to come and fight me about their goddamn club. This screenshot is from their operator guide. In place of *actual* credible guarantees of sovereignty or privacy, users are still beholden to their service providers for their data! What the fuck! WHAT IS THE POINT
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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Urbit through hosting ever promised privacy or sovereignty? It's not black and white, it's a spectrum. Are you using a your own full-node to access Ethereum or are you using a centralized RPC providers?
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@ceresbzns
I run my own full node.
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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What about Farcaster? Do you also run your own hub? According to FID, you were here long before Farcaster was permission-less, and the centralization of whole system (esp. Warpcast) is quite apparent
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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Personally, I've been interested in new decentralized networks for a long time. It's very interesting to watch Farcaster, Bluesky, Nostr, Lens and others... I'd be quite interested in your opinion on this. Because given how upset you are about Urbit, I wouldn't exactly expect you to be on Farcaster, to be honest.
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@ceresbzns
The big difference between Farcaster and Urbit is a matter of proposed use case and value prop. 1) farcaster is free, so no one is asking me to invest money in it to participate 2) the core public-facing claims, as far as I'm aware, aren't contradicted by the operator docs and implementation
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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1) Farcaster was free because it was centralized and invitation-only - now it's registration permission-less and not free. Users must pay an annual storage fee ($~5) (caststorage.com). On Urbit you can get a free planet for example at tlon.network (centralized). It seems very similar to me in terms of "freeness".
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@ceresbzns
So it is! Well, in all fairness, I guess I will give it a try. I am ~donmeg-banlex in the hooniverse
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🌴tree.fail @ Bluesky
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Just to be clear - I'm not trying to convince you that Urbit is great and that you should use it. I'm just saying that I think there are a lot of interesting ideas to be inspired by or think about :) Just like there's definitely a lot of nonsense out there
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