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Perception of China, drilled down by country income level and age groups. Pew Research's latest global survey shows China is favored more positively by middle income countries & younger people compared to high income countries & older people. Full report: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/07/09/most-people-in-35-countries-say-china-has-a-large-impact-on-their-national-economy/
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if I had to guess… and guess I will… I’d say it’s because Chinese money positively influences middle countries the most (they lack access to cheap capital but have basic infrastructure) wealthy countries don’t always need or benefit from large inflows of cash from China (asset bubbles, pop. is weary of propaganda)
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I’d guess it’s less about pragmatics and more about social media
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That was going to be my guess. I listened to a pod the other day talking about how the tik-tok algo promotes Chinese propaganda and hides events that would be seen negatively. if this is one of the generations' primary information sources, this lean would fall in line with that model. It would be interesting to see a tik-tok adoption chart next to the sentiment chart for the demographics.
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Absolutely not. I've been using TikTok since 2020 (pandemic days) and while algo kept changing, it never had a Chinese bias. In fact let me put it this way: Go & search Tianenmen Square on TikTok. You'll find hundreds of videos about the massacre, Chinese gov't violence, etc. Then try to search "Bin Laden letter". It's blocked as per US gov't request. Today, US gov't controls TikTok more than Chinese gov't.
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I'm not questioning the the US government doesn't engage in the same sort of behavior, it is interesting that you point to an example of an event that is over 3 decades old as a reference though.
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Tianenmen Square is the most commonly used example by China critics when they refer to chinese censorship. Same applies to "Uyghur detention camps" too. Feel free to search, you'll get hundreds of results.
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Not really a rabbit hole I was trying to go too far down this morning, but I'm on my second cup of coffee so whatever. there is a difference between things you can find in search, and things that the algo puts in the feed. If people using tik tok as a primary source of information don't get this information in their feed, they will never search for it. so if the algo doesn't promote those posts, then it is effectively hiding them.
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These videos have hundreds of thousands of likes, millions of views. If algo didn't show them to relevant people, they wouldn't have had these views & likes. I see them but obv that's just anectodal. Algo is black box in almost all social media in the end. It's also funny to clutch pearls on this, because the entire Twitter/X algo now is catered towards alt-right because of its current owner, in fact there's a way to prove it with data: Check the tweets with words such as "genocide" or "Gaza" get 5x like-to-view ratio but have lower views than other topics, even from the same people. Certain topics are shadowbanned. When you raise it, Elon says "I defend freedom of speech, not freedom of reach" Not even going into Facebook, Youtube, etc which have more outright bans than either of these two.
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So what you are telling me is all these platforms have built in biases (which I agree with), but tik tok doesn't? Or are you saying it's just a different set of biases by the Chinese ownership with CCP oversight? 🤔
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No he's saying the narrative of the whole ccp censorship being an issue is entirely overblown, considering American/isreal interests have way more influence on getting content blocked
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So relative to other actors, the ccp propaganda is on a much smaller scale? I feel like we are arguing about which politician is more honest at this point... None of them are honest, and media has always had a bias based on who is distributing it. To be clear I believe all human constructions have built in biases, and the more power concentrated in the medium, the more that influence will be abused. As a massive app tik tok is absolutely being leveraged by the people who control it, as all the other media outlets are being influenced by the major powers that have influenced over them.
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I mean I can't really find any, considering anti ccp narratives are very popular on tik tok But on the inverse , why can't you find articles where they banned, content on Taiwan or tiananmen square or the uygher situation, why are those videos getting 100s of k worth reactions, like if China is censoring why is it allowing anti ccp narratives but blocking anti us https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/tiktok-prohibit-videos-promoting-bin-ladens-letter-america-2023-11-16/
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