Very Internet Person

i have a lot of feelings but i'm on no sleep and since i'm casting in this channel i'll keep it on topic:

i've been posting more doomer content lately even tho i'd rather focus on good things. but now i expect the enshittification of the web to accelerate. the democrats aren't really better for the web but they are less distracting. when the firehose of trump's shitshow turns on again in january, many will be too distracted daily like last time to do productive things to prevent further enshittifying. it's no coincidence the death date of the internet is often cited as 2016/2017. now he has elon as a sidekick too, so it will be doubly as annoying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

not sure what that means for this channel. "A channel for Very Internet Persons to discuss net culture, intermedia, and having fun online." seems frivolous now as i'm not sure online will be very fun for a while and i'll have to spend more time offline working to insulate my loved ones from the "hardship" that elon is promising. i hope i'm wrong tho

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i'll try to stop by during the live but usually i watch the episodes after they've aired (⌒_⌒;)

@christin and i are working through our /okbanger philosophy in this next phase of the internet and just want to share you might appreciate stopping through our show tomorrow at 11 ET 

understand + respect the impulses, but as a serial self-isolator sometimes it helps to just exist near some optimists 🫡

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pls take things slow and take care of yourself. it's definitely a crushing result. i don't even know why i'm on here rn. i'm avoiding looking at the home feed at all bc i just don't want to know 

we can figure it out once we heal a bit

i'm really tired rn and know i can't process. 

all i know is that i need to have hope that the anger those of us that care takes a useful form & helps burn the ground to create something amazing, otherwordly & new that can surpass what we've seen..

& i think I see  role for vip in that..

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yes, i'm thinking a lot about how to go forward with this channel. i kind of feel like part of it is presenting a different worldview than what might be dominant here. but also part of me feels like maybe it's not the place/time/audience for it anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hoping for the best too, but it's probably wise to be prepared for worse. 

For me, I'm not in the US, but I also live in a region of the country that's currently leaning very heavily right and I'm afraid it'll be much more normalized now :(( And unfortunately it's showing online too.. 

Some times this entire slop makes me so angry, even if it's not propaganda... especially when they are targeting kids Idk. Feels so wrong. 

Maybe in this channel we can continue having debates about what's happening and who knows, maybe something surprising cool and new comes along that's more human-centric and still gives us access to all the info.

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i'm using enshittification here in more of a general sense of the effects

doctorow's enshittification is about platform lock-in and the decay of quality/usability. eg. social app or search engine pivots to algo slop to better profit, degrading user's ability to see/do what they want

obv the web is not a platform in this sense. but trump in power combined with his extreme attention seeking causes an ai slop-like effect on the web

"flooding the zone with shit" as bannon himself called it. the goal of this strat is to bait, hook, and wear ppl out (ie. enshittification pattern.) drown out everything else. i think one overdominating and unrelenting annoying slop noise decays the quality of the web. the way to counter this decay is lots of ppl actively adding more good to the web. ofc i can upload whenever i want but, like ig, what's the point if it's just drowned out by shein ads and shrimp jesus and my friends can't see it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

sry if this is disconnected. i still haven't slept and i'm out of space

Clarify what you mean when you say Trump in power would result in more enshittification? Not sure how those are connected.

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it's possible that this can be a motivating thing but as i've mentioned before, their whole flood the zone with shit strategy is to keep ppl from being productive while they get away with everything (╥_╥) all u can really do is make sure the ppl in your local network stay healthy at this point so as not to be dragged down to total despair. this means logging out of some sources where they can get to u

Hoping for the best but expecting things to be worse than I expect. Trying to make peace with that and figure how I'm gonna insulate my family from the shitshow.

oh i don't doubt that some technology will flourish. i'm talking more specifically non-commercial internet. 2016/2017 is noted as the death date of the internet bc with trump in power, any resistance to corporations cementing their dominance over the web evaporated. and with the type of control they were able to seize, they no longer had to satisfy users and could degrade their services (ie. enshittify) without worry

i think the technologies that will flourish under trump are the ones that align most with trump's/gop brand – ie. hyperfinancialized extraction tech, surveillance tech, social discord tech. and in general, consolidation of technology into fewer hands. those are all things i'm not interested in at all, and especially surveillance, i'm vehemently opposed to – so that's why i'm feeling like peacing out for the next 4 years or more

I think this is wrong. I think technological flourishing will increase.

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i'm doing my best to stay optimistic and push forward. all the feed based sites are pretty crazy rn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i agree with your general take. i do feel like this channel is what is going to make us able to have _some_ fun on the web, cherish it, nurture it and help it grow against the current.

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i don't think the convos will die. but i've just been thinking a lot lately about where best to put the effort and where the effort might be lost. this thinking has been going on for a while before the election – like in the convos that u and i have had recently about the platforms, etc. i guess i've been feeling more alienated lately even tho i know there are a small group of likeminded ppl here still

i understand your perspective, but i also think letting discussions of "net culture, intermedia, and having fun online" die because of an overarching sense of doom and gloom is letting "them" win. we have to fight for these spaces, not let them disintegrate because of circumstances that were anyway out of our control. this is something we have power over. it starts with the small things.