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'If you're not embarrassed by the first version of your product, you've launched too late' ethos run amok resulting in things like Humane, Rabbit, Friendtech and others. Like @keccers.eth said on X, is why things like Daylight seem remarkable. Web3 particularly guilty, clunks get but on back-burner, jankiness persists

i've done a complete 180 on this since starting fabric: v hard getting people to care about your product, even if its well executed. impossible if its a half-baked turd

if you're gonna create something, respect the game and make it great

taking too long? reduce scope not quality

real world performance (market reality) is the only thing that matters

everything else is commentary

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Aggressively descope. And make that great.

Amen

I think this is a zeitgeist shift. @hyper also had a similar cast recently re: YC propaganda about iteration

Feels like an un/bundling cycle and we’re going back to the phase of beautiful, deliberate products that cut through the noise of crap from the move fast break things phase

Still think it is important to launch something small fast and get feedback from users. But we are seeing too much shipping and moving on to the next thing. Not enough iterating and improving

u want to sell ur product? build a great product first

Ship it. But not public open desperate for anyone to care. Ship it half baked to a few. Keep opening up wider as you go.

Maybe never open it up to 100%

I mean don't ship turds. You can be embarrassed, your product shouldn't be perfect, but also don't expect anyone to use what you've built if it's a literal turd.

Talked to a few very senior designers about this recently and they all agree that we are in a phase where craft matters.

They don’t think it will be like this forever, but it’s the status quo rn

I’ve been working on essay on this.

I agree with you…too many reasons to fit in short form, but the tldr is it diminishes your brand equity and decays your internal culture.

Will ship the essay when it is great. :)

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This is SO true. 

I am feeling this dilemma rn. Even though it's taking longer to push, but I am making sure whatever I am pushing, is of utmost quality so they expect more, and I, at the same time, have a standard to abide by.

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This is SO true. 

I am feeling this dilemma rn. Even though it's taking longer to push, but I am making sure whatever I am pushing, is of utmost quality so they expect more, and I, at the same time, have a standard to abide by.

500 $degen

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100% agree. In software could be better to hurry up and ship fast and improve from users feedback to deliver updates. But product is waaaay different IMO