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“If you’re so smart why are the only ways you have to get rich value extractive?” A thought I have often about our so called smart people

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Extraction of natural and human capital is the story of civilization unfortunately

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and people call me doomer! Extraction may be inevitable but is it desirable or sustainable? I agree the optimal amount of all bad things is nonzero but Many things were until they weren’t. Leaded gasoline was profitable and widespread and yet we somehow got it together to stop doing that

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Controversial but I believe Weber that the cultural fuel of capitalism was the Protestant work ethic Catholics were slower to industrialize for this reason Unfortunately we abandoned all that cultural fuel. I believe that without it we will find the system can no longer self sustain. It is why many push for what I argue are lesser economic systems without knowing why

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I believe the colonial frontiers helped fuel this as well and that opening up new frontiers in space would help address scarcity and fuel new growth

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I agree to a degree. Frontier makes being lazy deadly. Puts the whole ideology on steroids. But I don’t think we have long enough to wait — we are so far away from space colonization 🥲

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I believe our distance on space colonization is mostly political I and I believe many others would gladly board Orion project type multi generational space ships towards new worlds even if it won’t be arriving for 15 generations

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No way they have a lot to figure out about the resilience of the body. People would do it, the courage is there, but it’s hard for me to imagine how they would survive. Some of those ISS guys get back low key rekt

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I think many of us would die in space and lots of learning would take place along the way and be of use both to those on the trips and those back on earth too Many people died crossing over to America whether by boat like Columbus or walking across in earlier times

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some of my fave TNG episodes had those rare moments with Picard back on earth walking around in his vineyards. finally, phew, not in a box! see also opening scene of KSG Aurora where they are sailing… and only after a bit do you realize that they are still in a box, just a big one we aren’t meant to live boxed up, metaphor and irl

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thanks i agree that we arent meant to live in a box and this is why i hope that such colony ships would be built like O'neill Cylinders and not like the Enterprise so that its more like our natural habitats thanks for mentioning "KSG Aurora" ive never heard of this and would love to see the scene but searching for this term doesnt bring any shows/movies/books up for me (photo is oneill cylinder concept art)

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oof sorry the “KSG“ was a typo, meant KSR, for Kim Stanley Robinson here’s the wikipedia link for Aurora! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(novel)

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thanks so much im going to check it out i love books like this

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it’s been maybe ten years since I read it but seems entirely likely that O’Neill Cylinders are exactly what KSR has based his spaceships on. Will have to go check have read almost all his stuff btw, def was a fun era when I chewed through so many of his big fat science-y novels

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i love that with scifi books the field is so wide and yet there always seems to be a whole new big author with a ton of works like this so i will probably be following in this era you experienced a decade ago🤣

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