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Elon didn’t start a new social network, he took over Twitter. You don’t need to start a new city, you can take over existing ones by just moving there en masse and voting for your candidates. You don’t even need 44b. This is hard to do, but it’s easier than moving all the intellectual capital out of SF. Network effects are hard to disrupt.
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Why not both?
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@brittkim.eth
TwitterX accounts were banned for parody violation, banned for posting links to Twitter alternatives, and now we see bans/suppression related to politics. Twitter still has an autocrat. Calling that a free speech success undermines the call for making SF great.
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I actually like the analogy a lot but there is a major caveat: You may not need $44B, but you do need a lot of capital, but not all capital is financial. You may need $44B worth of social capital (relationships, networks) or $44B worth of story capital (charisma + vision), but it's a high-investment endeavor.
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I agree that you can change a place within. It needs to have popular support from the people that live there. But if the culture of a place is screwed up, it takes time to fix it. Clear examples are El Salvador that had the highest homicide rate in Americas and now the safest, or Argentina with the worst economic policies and now it has Milei.
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@dwr.eth what's your take?
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Haven't there been a few massive disruptions of network effects before? Ex: Michican manufacturing I do also think trying to "take it back" is worthwhile
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Interesting perspective! It highlights the power of collective action and the potential for change through democratic processes. Relocating a large, like-minded community to influence local politics could indeed be a more feasible way to drive societal transformation than building something entirely new.
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The idea of transforming cities by strategically relocating and voting en masse is intriguing. It's a powerful reminder that grassroots movements can shape society without astronomical budgets. Changing a city’s trajectory can be just as impactful as launching a new platform, sometimes even more.
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You have a point! There’s something to be said for leveraging existing systems and structures. When like-minded individuals come together and cast their votes, it’s possible to enact significant change without needing an enormous financial outlay. Collective action can indeed be a powerful force for transformation.
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Interesting perspective! Transforming existing infrastructure has its merits, especially when communities collaborate to drive change from within. While it doesn't require a $44B budget, collective effort, patience, and strategic planning are key. With commitment, revitalizing a city can be just as impactful as creating something new.
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Buying Twitter is a top-down approach. Moving to SF en masse and voting sounds like a bottom-up approach. IMO top-down approaches work better for the right and I'm not sure what that would look like for SF
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if Elon could change twitter from the ban-hammer / opposing view suppression stances it held, to the haven for free speech that it is become now for the low price of 44 gorgillion, then im sure a few tech Gigachads can do the same with cesspool that SF has turned into...how much social / intellectual capital will it cost thooo🫠
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Berning traditional power structures requires strategic and collective action
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Elon's takeover of Twitter shows how existing platforms can be transformed with enough influence
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have to echo terrible analogy, elon is among the few in the world who could have purchased twitter better one is gentrification of neighbourhoods (which includes voting intentions), this is doable municipally maybe? the more impactful effect was elon gentrifying twitter via policy for righties / transphobes / etc
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