Dan Finlay 🦊 on Warpcast

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Took 6 months. ;) https://warpcast.com/dwr.eth/0x84a88d

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yaaa, BUT, e.g. Chrome on iOS seems to be artificially held back. E.g. Chrome iOS users cannot add a webapp to home screen. And I doubt that‘s caused by Google being late and more by Safari having privileged OS access. It‘s so sad that these companies put their profit motive before building an open web.

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Chrome on iOS has minimal market share?

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Fair point, I checked for us @kiwi iOS visitors Safari: 88% Chrome: 12% However: iOS Chrome users cohort is almost as big as total Android user cohort 🤡 . So while you're right, I still think it's a cohort worth serving.

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asking generally now @dwr.eth https://warpcast.com/timdaub.eth/0x5cae9a

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Crypto is correlated with higher income / wealth which is correlated with iOS

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For what it's worth, I have an android phone that costs more than any iOS device. I feel like there's a narrative created by Apple that iOS = premium. It's nonsense, and it doesn't take into account how many people in crypto care about open source and permissionless technologies.

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this is true. I know many "high income" people that use Android. But it's anecdotal. Statistically I can see that the likelihood of a person being rich is much higher if they happen to own an iPhone

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Yeah, there's no doubt that iOS is dominant among "premium" users. I just wish more crypto people would actually give a shit about not using a closed platform that takes 30% of everything. There are some of us here who refuse to touch iOS on principle.

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Same here, would never touch iOS, and in some ways they are the most anti-crypto ethos brand you could opt for.

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I still remember when they banned all bitcoin wallet apps in 2013. It was a perfect example of how centralized of a platform iOS is, so it's always disappointing to see so many crypto people are using it.

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I had used an Android proudly until devcon in Bogota. Then someone showed me how fast Metamask loads on their iPhone. I was shocked, it was nearly instant compared to my Android‘s 2min load time. Additionally, Android has gotten very janky and much worse UX over the years. iOS is (sadly) years ahead

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Ah yeah there was an active perf bug during Bogota for Android. I suspect you’d see it greatly improved now, in case you were missing it otherwise..

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Does this mean metamask is going to now focus equally on developing the android and iOS versions of the app? Tim is right that app developers tend to treat android as an afterthought, which I think is a huge problem for crypto apps.

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I think we already have been dedicating equal resources. Sometimes there’s an issue that comes up that affects one platform or the other but I don’t think this reflects an allocation of resources issue on our end.

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for context on my only position on this issue, I was an iOS developer until Apple rejected my first app, and then I became a web developer, and that same spirit of permissionlessness (among other things) drew me to Ethereum. https://fartomin.wordpress.com/

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s/only/own. Blame siri 😜

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