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I love POAPs, but why do I have to contact them to register an event? Feels very anti-crypto
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@m-j-r
100%, the other thing that bothers me is how insufficient it is for viral IRL assembly. would be excellent if organizers could each have a "kiosk" that allows minters to create derivative kiosks. we need a significantly more permissionless event badge mechanism.
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Like derivative badges?
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@m-j-r
kind of, more for the opportunity of having something very spontaneous, containing 10,000+ ppl to quickly spread a proof of attendance without relying on everyone meeting the same person, receiving a secret, etc. also, same thing for longterm IRL scavenger game. how do we cheaply but securely mint a plethora of proof
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@matthew
re your first point, what about just having a nft ticket for the event that just “becomes” the poap when you check in? most if not all large events have some kind of checkin process at the door. smaller events organizers probs know who was there. would love to know more about your last point tho!
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@m-j-r
what about all the historic events that deliberately avoid a formal checkin? e.g. protests & strikes? same deal with a p2p scavenger games, is it really visibly fair if there isn't a way for anyone to just permissionlessly purchase the things to hide? unfortunately poap design is top-down w/ strict networking.
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@matthew
how would you solve it then?
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@m-j-r
possibly an unlimited dutch auction (low-gas L2) 1155 mint + dynamic url QR code. ideally it could be indexed such that most attendees collect a huge # of very low-trust derivatives, & like gitcoin passport, score is distilled for sybil resistance. so earliest minters & high-trust derivatives might pay more for high...
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@m-j-r
clickthru for the qr codes they generate, which might be part of the indexed score as well. I just think that if POAP uses negligible price to defend against farming, then likewise it should be entertained as the central mechanism for establishing permissionless minting. (high-trust = low index on 1155 series)
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@m-j-r
for strictly web2 ppl, maybe lean on the dynamic qr code to funnel them into a patch wallet (@corbin.eth ). this is just my rough idea, but yeah, as a repeat organizer of POAP events and IRL attendee, there's room for improvement.
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@matthew
as the owner tho wouldn’t you want some top-down control? in the case of a protest or strike i get it, but how common is the need for a POAP there relative to a branded event? i like the point of dynamic qr codes tho… also wonder if mentaport.com could help here cc @cynthai
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@m-j-r
I want as much control as satoshi nakamoto had over bitcoin, as in just enough to defend the network before it takes off (early mining cluster), and just enough to elevate early attendees i.e. CPU miners. but by then, for the overall 1155 representing an event, I'd want derivatives & fresh 1155 events to self-organize
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@cynthai
Thank you @matthew! We are building a platform for dynamic creation of NFTs bound to physical locations. Super easy to implement complex rules of “who when and where”, P2P NFTs, and scalable scavenger hunts. Happy to tell you more about it @n @m-j-r!
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pretty interesting stuff, I just recently tested the stamp. with Sui, is the dynamic NFT relatively quick to update(not sure what the finality is for Bullshark, but I assume it's relatively quicker than an object's change in location)? what's your experience been with that architecture, any new unlocked use cases?
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