lightclients

Ethereum

Sample size is small but I made this poll in /ethereum and 19/21 people voted that they want light clients built into wallets. What can we do to push for this? Open to all and any ideas, let's discuss!

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Still a big gap in how to achieve this for L2s.

A doodler and computerer. I like permissive/permissionless open source, smart contracts, p2p systems, room-scale VR, and NixOS.

shazow.net

Currently: WhatsABI

Correct but the goal is to make Ethereum as trustless as possible for the end user and verifying that they aren't lying is a huge step in the right direction

The next step would be to increase the number of centralized RPCs you're requesting data from as you only need one to provide an honest Merkle proof

Good nuance on trusting, but the issue is relying.

I don't believe we have a way to build a wallet that does not rely on centralized RPCs (but at least it could verify that they're not lying).

Infinex

recently listened to kain from /infinex (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0wNxuT7zxHumr7NsEEriwJ?si=b6082b1253234d7e) talk about utilizing passkeys instead of seedphrases for better UX and cloudbased sec, how do light clients could come into play here? or are they just using a single RPC?

They're solving different problems, both are big problems but different

Infinex is abstracting away the shitty crypto UX and wants to make Ethereum usable by our grandmas

Light clients make Ethereum truly trustless. Having wallets build in light clients wouldn't change anything from the end user's perspective, but they would provide a trustless relationship with centralized RPCs like Infura or MetaMask. 

If we don't make Ethereum a trustless experience for users what's the point of any of this?

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bring more attention to teams running with implementations like @ethos (helios iirc)

honestly, bringing any attention further down the stack also reinforces this decentralization ethos.