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Great idea. Bad documentation. I think a Cosmos for Ceramic will be more successful. 

You need something a bit more customizable based on your data type. Also, it only enforces data types but not other “read/write” permissions. 

I like Tableland.xyz

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tableland access control is definitely superior than ceramic. just don't like the fact write need to be onchain.. https://i.imgur.com/NKI1rnr.jpg

Hey, member of the tableland team here. Would love to hear your thoughts on alternatives to on-chain mutations. We've been exploring alternatives like ipfs hashes and other forms of verifiable off-chain data "dumps". Would love to hear your usecases for this type of thing!

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Not really in any practical sense. Two very different approaches to the problem of distributed data. ThreadDB was designed for pure p2p sync, whereas Tableland network will end up being more federated. ThreadDB relies on peers to make data available, whereas Tableland relies on blockchains for data availability...

how does the value prop of threadsdb compare to tableland? are they related in any way at all?

Yeh nice to have very specific requirements like this! I think Tableland hits all of those, save for maybe "private" per se. We made a conscious decision to leave encryption/privacy to the application layer, and I'm really happy with this tradeoff.

data need to be:
1. verifieable (self authenticated as coming from a certain user)
2. availabile 3. consistent 4.  could be private or public

Yeh I mean this is an amazing super power. We like to think of this as "mutable data with immutable (access) rules". I love that. Smart Contracts to control contract-level behavior (access control) and off-chain nodes to support storage and adherence to said contracts. Beautiful!

possible to make it such that access control is on-chain while data mutation is done offchain

example use case is, build a fc 'protocol' clone using a general data layer without using hubs