nook

Computer Scientist who just thinks onchain is neat. /formative

Speaking of Nook, when is there going to be an experiment with a token for Nook creators ? That actually would be cool for moxie @betashop.eth - since moxie already is weighted by engagement maybe extra points for rich interactive things like useful nook ratings and reviews

Will never incentivize usage of /nook with moxie or anything else. Use the product if you like it and it provides value for you. Don't use it if it doesn't. Incentives will just flood /nook with garbage and make it useless to everyone.

just building stuff / prev: manifold.xyz opensea.io

Incentives = my product isn't good enough to stand on its own

The main reason we don't have a lot of great products in crypto yet

Still love tokens. They just can't shortcut PMF

Identity mixologist

Co-founder at @icebreaker

icbk.me/web3pm.fc

Would like to understand your point better.

What's one good product that incentivizes heavily (without the incentive being part of the actual product like uniswap lp fees) where those incentives are actually driving durable results?

Or are you saying that durable results are irrelevant as you need incentives "if you want to scale"?

Incentives power crypto, whether you like it or not. Even good products incentivize heavily and you're forced to do the same if you want to scale.

If you don't do it directly, you have to find ways to benefit from third-party incentives, like Farcaster with Degen and Moxie.

I think the sweet spot is smart incentive is built into the product: uniswap amm&lp fees. This is only doable in crypto that cannot be done otherwise, which justifies all the complexity.