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Vitalik Buterin

Seeing a lot of (technically grammatically incorrect!) phrasings like "between you and I", "for Sam and I" lately. One way to interpret: this is yet another way English-language culture is forgetting that it ever had anything to do with Latin. Same idea as https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1479817912106074119

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Expanding a bit: "traditionally", pronouns in English have two main cases (excluding possessive forms): nominative and accusative. Nominative is for the subject: *I* said that..., *He* built... Accusative is for the object: I saw *him*, He saw *me* And for pronouns: Bob came with *me*, Charlie greeted *her*...

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Another possible explanation, people like me that were raised fairly incompetent in grammar, or second languages, becoming more included in the space. (I wouldn’t know how to use one or other, rn, as a college educated adult)

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Mac Budkowski ᵏ

the generation of coders grew up watching anime and it's also very present on crypto twitter so i guess that's where the japanese is coming from :)

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I suspect it’s overcorrection of “I” sounding grammatically correct because of the more common error: “Me and her <verb>….”

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I live in France and get reminded of this every darn day.

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What is the advantage of using proper grammar?

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Arun Mikael Mehta

And yet over here in Japan, the convention is to choose really... unfortunate English words for names to seem hip & edgy (for example, the barbershop on my street names "Welt" 😅, the IT support service named "Gookly" etc.).

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A good rule of thumb is to remove the other person from the sentence and check if it’s still correct. “For I” isn’t correct, but “for me” is . So it should be “for Sam and me”.

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damn you’re here too.

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i highly recommend "The Power of Babel" book if anyone wants to understand most likely mechanisms of formation of languages but careful, you might very well start saying then these "grammatically incorrect" constructions are just the language we use I.e., there is no "grammatically correct" "language"

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interesting. in my indigenous🇨🇦 Oji Cree language how we speak and utilize the language is not just based on pronouns, tense, verbs etc but depending who you are speaking about and what their relationship is to you completely changes it's actually hard for newer generations to learn ~🔺🔺🔺

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English is a mixed-up blender of a language (both in vocabulary *and* grammar) that changes as speakers use it vs. top-down control (see: French). This is a usage trend along with: • depreciation of the subjunctive mood, “if I were…” • depreciation of whom, “whom am I giving this to?” 1/2

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Oh I thought only Chinese would treat English grammar so seriously. In China, if you post a video in 'Chinglish', you must get a lot of bad comments below.

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Peer pressure helps expat kids pick up accents, grammar, slang. Adults more likely dgaf. I wonder if the fading of bully culture is part of this effect. Kids don't get laughed at for innocent mistakes that much, and adults are quick to redirect any mockery. (This is good!) It's fine. Bad grammar never hurt nobody.

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